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re: Alleva Says Les is Staying

Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:43 am to
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:43 am to
quote:

I think Fisher was ready, but FSU is giving him a bump


I think he was bluffing. No way he wanted an SEC West slate every year when Georgia Tech is too much to handle.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17687 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:44 am to
quote:

Whether or not Les is staying, Alleva should not. He should be fired.


This. When all this shite was being stirred, I wrongly thought that no intelligent man in Alleva's position would have prompted Scott Rabalais to fire the first shot to sink the Miles ship unless he had a sure thing, ink dry on the contract, winning coach. I didn't care that Les was 'left out in the wind to dry' with the administration's silence. Alleva's blitzkrieg was engineered for the good of LSU's football future.
But what happened? Apparently Alleva didn't have a 'sure thing.' With no backup plan, he decided to 'love the one your with.' All the negative attention he brought to the university, which I didn't care about when I thought we were getting a new coach, I do care about now.
Alleva looks like the biggest fool that ever was. I guess we should have expected this from a man who quickly and wrongly judged a group of innocent white men in a perceived racial incident back at Duke.

There should be consequences for Alleva's frick up. FIRE JOE ALLEVA!!!
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:46 am to
To me, a continuance of a decline would entail getting worse.

But you seem to be telling me that winning 13 games in a season, which we'd only done once before, is just part of the decline that started in 2008.

Also funny how all these people can't get over the Saban years when Miles' last five years are better in winning percentage than the Saban years were.
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:48 am to
I don't like Alleva at all, but he did say that such a decision wouldn't be made until after the season. Maybe he should have reiterated that, but he shouldn't have had to.
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17687 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:53 am to
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I don't like Alleva at all, but he did say that such a decision wouldn't be made until after the season.


So Alleva didn't make the decision until 10 minutes after the game?

bullshite. His only plan to get Jimbo failed and he didn't have a plan B.

Miles would have still been retained even if he had lost to TAM.

Posted by Salamander_Wilson
Member since Jul 2015
7636 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 6:53 am to
I wanted a new coach as much as the next guy, but if it was between Jimbo and Les, I'd rather Miles.

Also, I guarantee the stadium is packed for the first home game next year. No matter what, each new football season brings optimism and only 12 games. Everyone will be back on the bandwagon come 2016.

And for those saying they want Miles to move to AD...seriously? Have you seen the performance of the coaches he hires?
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:02 am to
quote:


So Alleva didn't make the decision until 10 minutes after the game?

bullshite. His only plan to get Jimbo failed and he didn't have a plan B.


Do you think he would have said that?

When you say it will be addressed after the season, what more are you supposed to say before the season ends?
Posted by BayouBlogger
Left Coast
Member since Aug 2015
1025 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:06 am to
quote:

if it was between Jimbo and Les, I'd rather Miles


There are better coaches than Les, but I'm also unconvinced Jimbo is one of them.

If we can get one and things aren't better next year, I hope we do so.
Posted by SOL
Garland, TX
Member since Jan 2004
2950 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:08 am to
Welcome to the 90s
Posted by tigerchad11
Brandon, MS
Member since Nov 2007
1791 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:09 am to
I didn't see the press conference or hear what Alleva said. Did sound anything like the dreaded "Vote of confidence" a lot of coaches in trouble receive, only to find themselves unemployed a week or two later?
Posted by Enadious
formerly B5Lurker City of Central
Member since Aug 2004
17687 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:13 am to
LSU athletic director Joe Alleva spoke to the media before coach Les Miles after LSU's 19-7 victory against Texas A&M.

Here is a transcript of Alleva's statement about Les Miles' future:

"Obviously there's been quite a bit of speculation the past few days about the future of our football coach and football program. I made it very clear that my policy is to wait until the end of the season, and obviously it's the end of the regular season right now.

"The season is complete and I want to make it very clear and positive that Les Miles is our football coach and will continue to be our football coach. Okay? I'm looking forward to working with Coach Miles as he leads this team to a bowl game and another great recruiting class.

"Les and I have talked, we've talked about this program, and we are committed together to working to win and compete at the highest level. And I really, frankly, don't have much more to say than that. I'm very pleased about tonight's outcome and I'm very pleased that Coach Miles is our coach. We're going to go forward together and win championships here at LSU."
Posted by tigerchad11
Brandon, MS
Member since Nov 2007
1791 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:29 am to
Thank you, sir.
Posted by AttyHunt
Member since Nov 2015
2 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 7:38 am to
Anyone who wanted Miles fired needs to look at what happened to UT after they fired Fulmer. Their program is just now starting to recover 7 years later. You better have a damn good HC ready before you fire a guy averaging almost 10 wins a year.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 7:39 am
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12822 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:17 am to
This only works IF Les was pressured into seeing that significant changes should be made.

CLM's comments at the post-game indicate he doesn't see it that way.

We are middle tier SEC, and will stay that way. MAY have saved the recruiting class for a Miss St type future.

The only path forward is to lower the expectations to fit the trajectory to "achieve goals".
Posted by rbdallas
Dallas, TX
Member since Nov 2007
10340 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:29 am to
I am not a Miles fan, but this was not the time to let him go:
a) too many coaching positions available, thus
HIGH cost / Low Selection
b) high buyout
c) the team still supports him
d) a high recruiting class at stake.

2016 will be a tell-tale and no room for error.
AND some things MUST change or we will have similar results.
Posted by I20goon
about 7mi down a dirt road
Member since Aug 2013
12822 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:36 am to
quote:

2016 will be a tell-tale and no room for error.
AND some things MUST change or we will have similar results.
two problems...

CLM basically just became even more entrenched. No one can force him to change now, if "forcing" is required.

Look at Miles' comments in the past and last night. He basically said no changes are required. So yes, force would be required going forward. Those changes you say MUST happen, Miles doesn't agree AND now no one can make him.

That's what happened last night.
Posted by SaintInBham
Birmingham
Member since Sep 2015
856 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:41 am to
I live in the land of Gumps. 99% of the people around me or either UA or AU fans with a little sprinkling of other SEC schools. Every Monday for the past 5 years I've had to stick up for LSU as they fell apart during the meat of the SEC schedule. Young team, just missing a quarterback, loss too many people, blah, blah, blah. I even sat in a sea Auburn and Alabama fans and went to the away games here.

IMO, there are no more excuses, and I can't offer any. I don't blame Les, he does what he does. College football circa 1982. The entire game has passed him by. I do blame the program for deciding that was good enough.

I think next year I'm just going to hang around with a couple of my Vandy alum friends and talk SEC baseball.

It's a damn shame!

Posted by Milk
central
Member since May 2010
1042 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 8:58 am to
Seems like a smart move because Les has never won at LSU. I think Bama has a few more openings for fans like you.
Posted by 62Tigerfan
Member since Sep 2015
4614 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:00 am to
So many apparent lies in Alleva's press conference, I don't know where to begin. Bottom line is that he has become a bigger liability to LSU football than Les Miles. Alleva should step down.

quote:

Obviously there's been quite a bit of speculation the past few days about the future of our football coach and football program.


And you, Mr Alleva did NOTHING for two weeks to try to curtail the speculation. You only fueled it by your cryptic "no comment". You throw your people under the bus to cover your arse. You are NO leader.
This post was edited on 11/29/15 at 9:04 am
Posted by diat150
Louisiana
Member since Jun 2005
43437 posts
Posted on 11/29/15 at 9:03 am to
Alleva bitched out because of the fan support miles got.
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