re: All we need is good QB play right?

I think its more about Les doing absolutely nothing to change the dynamics/momentum of that game. Yes JJ and the line were god awful but by doing nothing.....you're in essense.....waving the white flag. How can u do that in a NC game?

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And that's all fine and dandy...So what happened on 1/9/12???

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We played one of the greatest defenses in cfb history.

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THATS the game he will be remembered for..

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Well then the oline should only be remembered for that game because JJ was running for his life and they weren't getting any push.

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No matter what he did during the season

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OK but I was replying to a poster that said our offense went to shite once JJ began to start and that's just not true. It's not my opinion that the offense got better, it's a fact.
Once JJ started we had the season's highest yards/ play number, the highest yards/ game number, and the highest total yards month. During JJ'S starts we averaged over 400 yards/ game.

Relax.

LSU is a lock for a winning season and a bowl appearance.

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We played one of the greatest defenses in cfb history.

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Agreed....

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Well then the oline should only be remembered for that game because JJ was running for his life and they weren't getting any push

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Come on now... You could look into JJ's eyes even before the game and realize he wasn't ready.. I will not make excuses for the o-line though...They got totally dominated by Bama's adjustments from the 1st game.... And you could say he was running for his life but at the same time,IF he was that good he could have created something....Plus that shuffle pass to Ware was ALL on JJ.. Total panic mode... As far as a leader that night he just wasn't there...Its NOt all about stats....

dude, it's a new year. you just can't plug in one needed change from last year like it's a "ceteris parabis" variable.

we might get much improved QB play and then our D folds; who the frick knows?

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Harris is the key. Defense should be salty

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QB + this is exactly what we need....

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Jefferson had almost three whole games against Top Five defenses

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And in those 3 games he threw for less than 60 yards twice

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For the record, Jefferson had better stats at the end of the regular season. Jefferson had a higher Comp%, higher efficiency, higher YPA, and lower Interception %.

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So fricking what? Jefferson played against Western Kentucky, a terrible Ole Miss, and Arkansas, and got very limited garbage time otherwise. This means absolutely nothing

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Jefferson's three regular season starts were LSU's three best offensive games of the season for 2011.

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Um what? Jefferson passed for 208 yards, 168 yards, and a pathetic 88 yards against Ole Miss. It's cool that our running backs apparently exploded against those three teams and all but Jefferson had virtually nothing to do with that

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EVERY regular season game that Jefferson started was better than EVERY regular season game that Lee started.

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In what metric exactly? QB play? And it's really convenient that you leave out the absolute embarrassment of a game known as the SECCG where Jefferson went 5-13 and threw for 30 frickING YARDS so you can pump him up because he beat up on Western Kentucky.

But to address your false point:
Games Jefferson threw for over 150 yards: 2 (168, 208)
Games Lee threw for over 150 yards: 5 (154, 165, 169, 180, 213)

Not sure what you meant by "EVERY GAME JEFFERSON STARTED WAS BETTER THAN EVERY GAME LEE STARTED" but his best game was better than Jefferson's and so was his worst game

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LSU's second best passing game happened when Jefferson started.

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Tight, LSU's first best passing game happpened with Lee started

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LSU's best rushing game happened when Jefferson started.

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This had virtually nothing to do with Jefferson. Ole Miss was soft as hell and I could've handed the ball off 50 times that game and our RB's would've had the same stats

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LSU's best total offense game happened when Jefferson started.

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Again, this didn't really have anything to do with Jefferson. Lee's best game was better than Jefferson's best game, he just didn't have the running support to give him this meaningless title

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Compare regular season numbers.

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Again, the majority of those came from Western Kentucky, Ole Miss, and Arkansas. Not very impressive

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And that's not even mentioning how much Jefferson improved the team's rushing attack. LSU rushed for over 250 yards in every game of Jefferson’s three starts.

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This has absolutely nothing to do with Jefferson. Western Kentucky was a joke and Ole Miss and Arkansas had god awful rush defenses in 2011. Did JJ put our running backs on his back and carry them downfield in those games? His effect on their success was negligible

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Post-season numbers cannot be compared. Jefferson played in the Championship games. Lee didn't

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How convenient is that? We can just ignore the games that Jefferson threw for 30 and 53 yards!

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From the moment that Jefferson threw his first pass in the Florida game in 2011, he had a higher QB Rating than Lee

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He threw 4 fricking passes in that game for 60 yards and a TD then he got another 3 passes against Auburn where he was on a short field. That gives him a huge advantage in QBR but means basically nothing

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for the rest of the regular season.

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That's right, from his first pass until the end of the regular season

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Jefferson threw his first pass until the end of the regular season

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regular season

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You sure do love the qualifier regular season don't you? Wonder why that is? Maybe because if you expand the scope of your argument past a terrible Western Kentucky, a terrible Ole Miss, and an overrated Arkansas then your whole argument about Jefferson's stats being better is completely false? Jefferson beat up on two terrible teams, had ONE good game against an ok Arkansas team, and completely embarrassed himself in the SECCG and national championship games. But please keep twisting stats to make it seem like your son was better than Jarrett, Mr Jefferson.

FYI to whoever's reading this, this guy's post is the exact reason that they teach you to watch out for scientists who cut the scope of their sample down with words like "regular season" in a study. It's a telltale sign of someone trying to manipulate stats in their favor.

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"Statistically" Lee was the better quarterback in every way

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Dude I just showed you all the statistics of why Lee wasn't the better QB.. Nor was he anywhere close. Once again, Our offense was much better with JJ. Just look at the stats, which obviously you aren't doing.

Facts man, they can't handle the facts. Facts don't fit their agenda. Especially semjackass' (BRAVEHEART). He is Tigrlee on steroids and crazy pills.

I see us giving up some big point totals to good teams this year. We need to score 24+ a game in conference to get where we want to be..........