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Alabama & Auburn and lottery....
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:06 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:06 pm
Who is this joker calling the game on CSS ? And what is this crap he keeps talking about keeping AU & Bama down because of the lottery in other states ?
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Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:10 pm to ZoTiger6
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And what is this crap he keeps talking about keeping AU & Bama down because of the lottery in other states ?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:11 pm to ZoTiger6
He thinks that because other states have the lottery, that they can offer more scholarships to baseball players.
He's misinformed, but that won't stop him from complaining about it.
He's misinformed, but that won't stop him from complaining about it.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:13 pm to ProjectP2294
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He's misinformed, but that won't stop him from complaining about it.
to say the least.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:14 pm to ZoTiger6
If I'm not mistaken it's basically like Louisiana's TOPS program and this clown thinks that the sponsoring of in state students going to in state colleges is some how limiting the number of scholarships that AU and Bama can offer to their baseball players.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:15 pm to ProjectP2294
If they think not having the lottery hurts them then they have no one to blame but the voters in their own state.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:17 pm to Tigah32
He's sucking off AU football now, clearly an Auburn alum and just making excuses for being shitty.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 2:29 pm to Tigah32
But but but it evens out cuz we have to play Florida every year in football.....laughing
But this goober does sound like he was picked up at the nearest trailer park
But this goober does sound like he was picked up at the nearest trailer park
Posted on 5/22/13 at 3:23 pm to Tigah32
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If I'm not mistaken it's basically like Louisiana's TOPS program and this clown thinks that the sponsoring of in state students going to in state colleges is some how limiting the number of scholarships that AU and Bama can offer to their baseball players.
I always thought the argument wasn't that all schools weren't limited to the same # of scholarships but that teams in states with education lotteries could supplement their team with good players on academic/lottery scholarships that don't count against the baseball limit. If that is in fact the case, having a lottery CAN be a pretty big advantage. It doesn't account for a program being great but it doesn't hurt.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 3:50 pm to Govt Tide
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I always thought the argument wasn't that all schools weren't limited to the same # of scholarships but that teams in states with education lotteries could supplement their team with good players on academic/lottery scholarships that don't count against the baseball limit. If that is in fact the case, having a lottery CAN be a pretty big advantage.
TOPS is an academic merit scholarship. Alabama and Auburn don't offer those?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:03 pm to Govt Tide
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I always thought the argument wasn't that all schools weren't limited to the same # of scholarships but that teams in states with education lotteries could supplement their team with good players on academic/lottery scholarships that don't count against the baseball limit. If that is in fact the case, having a lottery CAN be a pretty big advantage. It doesn't account for a program being great but it doesn't hurt.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:04 pm to PsychTiger
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If they think not having the lottery hurts them then they have no one to blame but the voters in their own state.
Lived there for over 20 years and was ready to get the hell out. Crap like this is why.
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TOPS is an academic merit scholarship. Alabama and Auburn don't offer those?
TOPS is a state scholarship. Alabama doesn't have state scholarships, just institutional ones. No different than being awarded a scholarship from LSU.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:08 pm to ZoTiger6
We all agree its an advantage though, right?
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:23 pm to Summer of George
TOPS money does not come from Lottery money If I remember correctly. Alabama legislators and citizens should push for state scholarships (which have been a great asset to the kids in Louisiana) in their state and maybe learn from what Louisiana did and how Tops has been set up. But they have nobody to blame but themselves for not having a state scholership. Furthermore if it is that big an issue maybe they should set up some special academic scholarships directed toward the baseball program? Not sure specifically about the rules and how they apply towards the 11.7 but there has to be a way around the rule for academic scholarships.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:26 pm to Summer of George
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We all agree its an advantage though, right?
Last I heard, I think GA has a TOPS-like program too...we see how that worked out for UGA baseball.
ETA: it is called the HOPE program...not as good as TOPS but covers $1,800/semester.
There's HOPE
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 4:29 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 4:27 pm to ZoTiger6
Alabama sucks...just no other way to put it.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 5:20 pm to ZoTiger6
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Bama down because of the lottery in other states ?
Maybe they should send a few dollars from football to the baseball program.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:21 pm to ZoTiger6
Even if it is an advantage for everyone but Bama and Auburn, it's a personal problem for them. There state legislature could fix it l if they wanted to. Someone should give him a lily pad to tinkle on.
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:38 pm to meldawg399
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ETA: it is called the HOPE program...not as good as TOPS but covers $1,800/semester.
same program exists in Tennessee too. Tennessee covers up to 3 grand a semester. the only schools in the SEC located in states without a state lottery are the MS and AL schools. I'm not sure if MS has a state funded scholarship program or not. Regardless, AL fans can complain to their state legislatures about that.
This post was edited on 5/22/13 at 6:42 pm
Posted on 5/22/13 at 6:38 pm to Summer of George
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We all agree its an advantage though, right?
In theory, it appears to be an advantage, but as a practical matter, I say it has no real effect. If there were no TOPS in La, LSU would still be able to attract top flight talent.
If player A couldn't/wouldn't come to LSU because he is only getting 1/2 scholarship, there would be player B waiting to take his place.
GA - lottery funded scholarships - bad team - coach quit.
AU & Bama - No state funded "lottery" scholarships - mediocre teams.
Vandy - No state funded scholarships - good team
LSU - Some state, merit based scholarships - great team
There is no correlation between lottery scholarships and baseball success like Billy Bob War Eagle was mumbling to say.
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