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Additional questions for BH?

Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:31 am
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
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Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:31 am
Question I have after reading this to BH is as follows:

You say you wanted to throw the ball more and never really got the chance to at LSU with the offense that was run; how do you explain your inability to complete the passes that you were asked to make on any type of consistent basis?

Do you think had you been able to show the coaches more consistency that perhaps they would have "opened" up the offense more?

How do you explain this?

ETA: Sometimes when the lights go on that same player is not the same. Not a knock just sometimes the reality in sports.
This post was edited on 3/30/17 at 10:24 am
Posted by geauxtigahs214
New Orleans
Member since Dec 2016
98 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:35 am to
Trump's fault
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61747 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:37 am to
quote:

You say you wanted to throw the ball more and never really got the chance to at LSU with the offense that was run; how do you explain your inability to complete the passes that you were asked to make on any type of consistent basis?


When you wait until 3rd and 8 to throw, and you mostly send out two receivers in the route, it's kind of hard to execute when the defense is sitting on the sticks.



quote:

Do you think had you been able to show the coaches more consistency that perhaps they would have "opened" up the offense more?





No, the offense would have never been opened up more.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10185 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:37 am to
He was kind of angling that it was coaching and scheme as his problems.

I don't think it was either. He trained out in CA at some point with a QB guru in the offseason. Cam Cameron coached All-Pro Qbs. I think it was just as I posted above: lights came on, practice player is practice player.
Posted by Covingtontiger77
Member since Dec 2015
10185 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:39 am to
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No, the offense would have never been opened up more.


BS, the same offense and opportunity was given to Mett. He did great. Threw for a bunch of yards and TDs.

Practice player is practice player.
Posted by Choupique19
The cheap seats
Member since Sep 2005
61747 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:50 am to
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BS, the same offense and opportunity was given to Mett. He did great. Threw for a bunch of yards and TDs.



Mostly on 3rd and 8. Mett ranked 6th in the conference for passing attempts, 7th in the conference for pass completions. All the while he led the conference for passing yards per attempts and was second in passing efficiency. You might recall we had a couple of decent receivers to catch the ball as well. Regardless, Les didn't want to throw the ball on early downs.
Posted by lsubuddy
houma, la
Member since Jul 2014
4292 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 9:57 am to
His mechanics are not good. If he'd thrown as much as he wanted can you imagine how many more passes would'very been way too high or way short
Posted by cartig
Member since Feb 2010
2934 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:10 am to
Guess we'll find out a lot more about him at N. Carolina .
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94849 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:12 am to
quote:

He was kind of angling that it was coaching and scheme as his problems.

I don't think it was either.
Really? You think it is just a cowinky dink that our QB play usually sucks giant dick even though we recruited highly touted players?
Posted by lsupride87
Member since Dec 2007
94849 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:13 am to
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BS, the same offense and opportunity was given to Mett. He did great. Threw for a bunch of yards and TDs.
Metts year was great. And yet, we still didnt have an open offense. We still were ranked low in any volume passing stats
Posted by luvlsufootball
Member since Apr 2014
945 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:14 am to
quote:

Question I have after reading this to BH is as follows:

You say you wanted to throw the ball more and never really got the chance to at LSU with the offense that was run; how do you explain your inability to complete the passes that you were asked to make on any type of consistent basis?

Do you think had you been able to show the coaches more consistency that perhaps they would have "opened" up the offense more?

How do you explain this?

ETA: Sometimes when the lights go on that same player is not the same. Not a knock just sometimes the relality in sports.


Every QB misses a few easy completions. I thought that this kid was asked to throw too many 1 and 2 WR plays vs 4 and 5 defenders. For instance, fake lead to fournette, with one receiver route 18-20 yds up field.

Etling was victim of the same play calling in the 2nd half of Jacksonville state. It did not go well.
Posted by MaHittaMaHitta
Member since May 2014
3181 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:18 am to
I actually talked to a former LSU assitant yesterday about Brandon's inaccuracy and it being Les' fault. He explained how during practice and gameplanning meetings, Les would ask the coaches for advice and when they would offer up their offensive advice, Les would never be open to change. He said the other coaches in the room became extremely frustrated with Les over the years and eventually stopped saying anything, because Les already knew what he was going to do.

He explained how Les would only run the I formation with two wide which makes it extremely difficult for any QB no matter their skill to complete passes. He would have to hit the receivers so perfectly in every pass, which is tough for a kid to do, especially when the defense knew when you were throwing or not. He says Brandon will be much better in a different system.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58089 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:19 am to
Who cares? He's not a tiger any longer so we should just move on
Posted by therick711
South
Member since Jan 2008
25058 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:22 am to
quote:

When you wait until 3rd and 8 to throw, and you mostly send out two receivers in the route, it's kind of hard to execute when the defense is sitting on the sticks.





True, however look at this video. LINK There are no down and distance problems there. Guy misses every throw. Isn't remotely close. He needs to acknowledge that he simply isn't an accurate passer. When you can't hit open passes that Leonard Fournette (and Guice) give you just because they are on the field, that's pretty damn bad.
Posted by Hot Carl
Prayers up for 3
Member since Dec 2005
58960 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:34 am to
Who cares?
Posted by Lonnie4LSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Aug 2008
9525 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:39 am to
" wanted to throw the ball more"

When you have the type RBs we have had lately and QBs not very good in the percentage game, throwing the ball more doesn't seem all that football wise.

How did that wide open O work out for us at home this past yr vs Bama and FLa?

I thank Harris for his efforts and wish him well, but he has no one to blame for his own actions in games that resulted in his benching but himself. imo
Posted by LuzianaFootball
Bay Area
Member since Dec 2008
7845 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 10:44 am to
quote:

BS, the same offense and opportunity was given to Mett. He did great. Threw for a bunch of yards and TDs.


You realize that's when the offense to the biggest turn toward ultra conservative too. Mett also played with 2 of the best to ever play in uniform at LSU and in the pros. Landry and OBJ made Mett look much better than he was. Evidence, out of all the offensive stars from Mett's year, who's played significant roles and who's still starting?

Etling looked the exact same in a more "open" offense. People act like he is always on point. His passing was on par with BH all last year. If he slips this year, hopefully Canada has the nuts to play someone with more potential to get the ball moving.

BH will prove one group or the other wrong this year. Nobody ever claimed he was Joe Montana, but he could have had a better year with better plays designed to his strengths. We will find out.
Posted by BK785
Member since Feb 2013
3179 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:02 am to
I actually believe he'll have a better year than Etling.
Posted by beauchristopher
new orleans
Member since Jan 2008
65812 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:04 am to
Explain all qbs under Miles who weren't seniors?
Posted by Number 31
St. Tammany
Member since Jul 2016
4178 posts
Posted on 3/30/17 at 11:11 am to
quote:

I actually talked to a former LSU assitant yesterday about Brandon's inaccuracy and it being Les' fault. He explained how during practice and gameplanning meetings, Les would ask the coaches for advice and when they would offer up their offensive advice, Les would never be open to change. He said the other coaches in the room became extremely frustrated with Les over the years and eventually stopped saying anything, because Les already knew what he was going to do.

He explained how Les would only run the I formation with two wide which makes it extremely difficult for any QB no matter their skill to complete passes. He would have to hit the receivers so perfectly in every pass, which is tough for a kid to do, especially when the defense knew when you were throwing or not.

So you talked to Damiyune Craig.

Next time you see him tell him it's hard for the quarterback to hit receivers when the receivers he was coaching couldn't get off the line in press coverage and ran terrible-to-mediocre routes.
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