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A THEORY about the band ban move

Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:57 am
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:57 am
A wise man once said "A simple lie is easier to believe than a complicated truth"

Consider the budgetary concerns the state of Louisiana is having...

1) Tops program being removed all together was a bluff, so that when they reduced the program down, it would seem like a compromise where if they had just reduced the program from the start without the threat of removing it entirely, they would have received worse backlash.

2) F. King Alexander postures scrapping the football program due to the budget crisis knowing full and well that it would create a buzz, but proceeded not to move on the threat.

3) Alleva postures removing Les Miles as the head coach, and in dramatic fashion during halftime of our final regular season home game is forced to reverse the decision due to budgetary concerns by F. King Alexander

4) Roy King, long time band administrator and alum, is fired because
he wouldn't allow higher ups to steal band scholarship money and allocate it elsewhere.

5) Alleva proposes through a risk analysis, the conclusion that visiting bands are unsafe and will be unable to perform at halftime. This lie was the most transparent, but the true motive behind it is a bit more complex. We all knew that "safety" is a bs excuse, but why do this?

Step 1, we do not allow visiting bands to perform at halftime. Jacksonville State released an immediate reaction stating that they will not spend the $120,000 dollars to send their band here to NOT perform at halftime. Logic would suggest that most, if not all, other schools would react the same.

Step 2, if it costs Jacksonville State $120,000 to bring their traveling band here for an away game, how much do you think it costs the Golden Band From Tigerland?

Step 3, the administrators knew that if we banned other teams from playing at halftime in Tiger Stadium, it would only be a matter of time that every other team would band TGBFTL from playing during halftime in their stadiums. If it costs us $200,000 (our traveling band is larger than Jacksonville State's) and we play 5 away games, then that saves us 1 million dollars.. That's $1,000,0000 all in all the name of "safety." Administrators are thinking the only ones who will really suffer are band members. Band members privledge of traveling to away games versus 1 million dollars saved every year. Which side do you think the bean counters care more about?

The so called "leaders" who we have entrusted with power have been playing chess not checkers. They figured that the general population almost always sides with safety concerns, and did not anticipate receiving the public backlash that they did. It was never about safety, even the most gullible of people didn't buy that.

It's time to make a statement. I'm not sure what what exactly can be done, or how we need to do it, but I do not underestimate the power of LSU fans. Our populous base is passionate, outspoken, tough and strong willed.

We need to remove F. King Alexander and Alleva both. We need leadership that sees the value in LSU football and all the revenue it brings in. We need to find innovative and creative ways to raise money to meet our budget, instead of penalizing LSU's athletic budget, which is a cash cow, and is sacred among the alumni and all its fans.

If there are budgetary concerns, why continue to go behind our backs, and threaten to reduce and sully our indelible silver lining amongst today's dark clouds. These "leaders" are playing games with the 1 thing everyone in Louisiana can be happy about and look forward to. The oil industry has taken a major hit, and the economy is suffering badly. Half of the country works, and is taxed to death to provide for the other half of the country who are on untouchable entitlements. It's a chronic problem that isn't going anywhere anytime soon.

Are these the type of people that should be honored with the responsibility of "leadership?"

I, for one, am both furious and disgusted with this whole charade of game playing. I will always be proud to be an LSU alumnus, but I am embarrassed and sickened by our current administrators, some of whom are allowing this perversion of power, and others whom are perpetuating it.

We deserve better; LSU deserves better

CLIFFS: LSU money hungry Admins gambled and bet that if we banned other bands from playing at halftime, then all other teams would ban LSU's traveling band from attending their stadiums. This would save around 1 million dollars a year in ticket costs, room and board, travel costs etc. They lied blaming it on safety concerns, and we didn't bite
This post was edited on 6/16/16 at 12:35 pm
Posted by TigerDoc
Texas
Member since Apr 2004
9893 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:58 am to
Aha, theoretical truth.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158721 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 10:59 am to
yeah I'm not reading that Bob, but good effort
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:01 am to
It's worth it BilJ. It's about as important a topic as there is for LSU fans right now.

I know we live in a fast pace world, where anything that requires more than minimal effort for our attention is screened, but some things are too important to ignore
Posted by DBU
Member since Mar 2014
19059 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:02 am to
Posted by KingofthePoint
Member since Feb 2009
10128 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:13 am to
Does anyone actually care about visiting bands not playing at halftime?
Posted by Harry P Nass
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2016
85 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:24 am to
Posted by Harry P Nass
Mandeville, LA
Member since Jun 2016
85 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 11:32 am to
quote:

I know we live in a fast pace world, where anything that's more than 2 sentences is ignored and downvoted by the rantards, some things are too long to read


FIFY
Posted by TexasTiger89
Houston, TX
Member since Feb 2005
24245 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:05 pm to
quote:

We need to remove F. King Alexander and Alleva both


I agree with this and most of what you stated. Keep in mind though a full band only goes to one away game and to the bowl. The rest of the away games have a partial band but it still is a cost.
Posted by crownNbull
Gretna
Member since Jun 2010
3078 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:15 pm to
quote:

Step 3, the administrators knew that if we banned other teams from playing at halftime in Tiger Stadium, it would only be a matter of time that every other team would band TGBFTL from playing at halftime in their stadiums. If it costs us $200,000 (our traveling band is larger than Jacksonville State's) and we play 5 away games. That saves us 1 million dollars.. That's $1,000,0000 all in all the name of "safety." Administrators are thinking the only ones who will really suffer are band members. Band members privledge of traveling to away games versus 1 million dollars saved every year. Which side do you think the bean counters care more about?


The full band only goes to 1 game a year, therefore only do 1 halftime show per season at an away game. They aren't saving $1,000,000 a year. Your theory sucks.
Posted by thelawnwranglers
Member since Sep 2007
38738 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:21 pm to
I heard it cost about a million to take the full band
Posted by Dr. Morgus
Member since Dec 2001
Member since Jul 2013
3740 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:27 pm to
Tl;dr
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:31 pm to
quote:

The full band only goes to 1 game a year


The full band only goes once a year, but the traveling band goes to all the away games. If costs Jacksonville State 120k, you don't think it costs us more? There are transportation costs to and from, ticket costs, meals, and over night room and board.

My theory is logically sound, especially given the surrounding circumstances.

You are either A) capable of understanding the complexities of the truth, but unwilling to recognize them as such because it's ugly and ignorance is bliss or B) your diminished intellectual capacity renders you unable to comprehend the complicated truth, so you rationalize and adopt the simple lies perpetuated by the administrators.

Based on the vernacular of your conclusion "your theory sucks" I hypothesize the latter option is the correct one.
This post was edited on 6/17/16 at 4:24 pm
Posted by BillyBobBlitzkrieg
Lafayette
Member since Feb 2013
1352 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 12:35 pm to
Didn't realize there were so many Alleva and F. King supporters on the Rant
Posted by Irish LSU Fan
Baton Rouge, Louisiana
Member since Nov 2014
2456 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

My theory is logically sound, especially given the surrounding circumstances.


I agree 100%
Posted by CubsFanBudMan
Member since Jul 2008
5060 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 2:40 pm to
quote:

The full band only goes once a year, but the traveling band goes to all the away games. If costs Jacksonville State 120k, you don't think it costs us more? There are transportation costs to and from, ticket costs, meals, and over night room and board.

My theory is logically sound, especially given the surrounding circumstances.


LSU didn't ban other teams from bringing their band, just from letting the band perform on the field during halftime. So, if all schools imposed the same thing against LSU, the net affect would be, instead of LSU's band performing at halftime during 1 road game, they would perform at halftime during 0 road games. It would also have zero impact on 2016, as the band is probably using their 1 full travel game for Wisconsin. As a neutral site game, there is no school that can ban the band from performing during halftime, and is probably encouraged.

As far as Jacksonville State goes, the school is responsible for the cost of the tickets for the seats occupied by the band. Jacksonville State thinks it's worth the cost of those tickets plus travel expense for the opportunity for their band to perform on the field in Tiger Stadium. Once in a lifetime experience for those kids. JSU does not feel it's worth the cost of those tickets plus travel expense for the kids to sit in the stands. As far as LSU is concerned, JSU will return that many more tickets that LSU will have to sell, at probably $15 each.

Bama, and the rest of the SEC teams can afford to pay for the tickets that the band members will be sitting in. If Bama didn't send a single band person, those seats would be occupied by a random Bama fan, as they are part of the visiting team's ticket allocation.

***This is not meant as an endorsement of any LSU employee or policy made by those employees***
Posted by GetBackToWork
Member since Dec 2007
6247 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:24 pm to
Your theory may be 100% wrong, but this is exactly the type of game LSU admins have played now and in the past.

Sadly, LSU was on the cusp of moving into it's status as a tier 1 school. The quality people left, the school funding slipped, and the crappy games have returned.

If LSU is ever to be a great university, it will require the governor, the legislature, and the admins to share the same commitment to excellence. Jindal didn't have the commitment to making LSU great, didn't prioritize the school, and fought the admins to work out his health care restructuring. Mediocrity returned.
Posted by TNTigerman
James Island
Member since Sep 2012
10470 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:27 pm to
The Missouri football embarrassed themselves by boycotting/threatening not to play because of a bunch of racial crap that was orchestrated by rabble rousers simply for the sake of being divisive. We would never want the LSU football to ever take such an action or stance.

On the other hand, if passionate LSU football FANS put on a display of outrage in the form of in-their-face campus demonstrations on the grounds that these outsiders are threatening our beloved LSU football team and the traditions that we enjoyed for decades, maybe the "leadership" will listen and begin to fear us. This goes for F'ing King Alexander, Alleva, and that fat, stupid idiotic woman who wants to wipe out our game day traditions.
Posted by El Campo Tiger
El Campo, TX
Member since Mar 2015
10118 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:27 pm to
I could care less basically.

Posted by TROLA
BATON ROUGE
Member since Apr 2004
12291 posts
Posted on 6/16/16 at 3:28 pm to
I dont believe the full band travels to more than a couple of games anyway.. so your number would be closer to 400k
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