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2nd Year O.C.'s Pattern?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:57 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 7:57 pm
Crowton's first year of 07 was great O. 2008 was scary bad. Stud's first year was 2011... 2012 got him fired. In came Cam in 2013 and a great offense. Now his second year. I get the QB pattern that goes with this... But is there something happening between Year 1 and Year 2 with the Offensive direction? Or is it all personnel?
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Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:00 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
Offense wasn't really that bad in 2008.. we just had a terrible D
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:01 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
quote:
2008 was scary bad.
you are thinking of 09 and 10
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:01 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
I second what others have said. 2008's offense was actually pretty good, on par with 2007. 2009 it went downhill fast and has sucked ever since. Mettenberger was the only exception.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:01 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
2007 Flynn, Early D, D Byrd, Lafell, Keiland, Hester, Dickson, Trindon
2011 Defense scored a ton and gave us shorts fields, offense sucked
2008 JJ, Lee,Bad D coordinators, Offense wasn't bad just pick 6 city. Avg 37pts
2013 Mett, OBJ, Jarvis, Hill
2011 Defense scored a ton and gave us shorts fields, offense sucked
2008 JJ, Lee,Bad D coordinators, Offense wasn't bad just pick 6 city. Avg 37pts
2013 Mett, OBJ, Jarvis, Hill
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 9:15 pm
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:03 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:04 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
I just don't get how a qb going 3/14 is on the play calling. He can't throw the ball to an open receiver for him.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:08 pm to AirborneJonnyA
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2008 JJ, Bad D coordinators
JJ played because Lee got hurt, lee played cus hatch got hurt. JJ played the least in 08. We put up numbers, just turned the ball over way too much. D wasn't good enough to sustain giving the ball back that many times. We won the games we didn't turn the ball over.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:12 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
So is it as simple as QB's??? If we agree that 07, 11 and 13 were our best 3 Offenses of the Miles era, then we're saying that the offense of 08 with Hatch and Lee was OK???
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:13 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
2011 wasn't a great offense
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:22 pm to NorthshoreTiger76
2011 wasnt great offense? Maybe so. But go ask West Virgina or Florida or Auburn that year what they saw that year... 44% 3rd down conversions... 35 points a game... I guess that you have to define great offenses. We certainly benefited from the best field position and an opportunistic D... That much you're right no. Would you agree there was a big difference in the O in 2011 and 2012?
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:49 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
Big difference between last years QB, WR's, & RB. But I also don't think play calling has helped much with this young group.
Posted on 10/7/14 at 8:50 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
LSU was ranked 86th in total offense and averaged 355 yds a game. The offense this year has better numbers
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:17 pm to bmy
This times a million. Pick six's killed the o
Posted on 10/7/14 at 9:22 pm to Weaver
So let me ask another way... Do you think the Offensive Coordinator gets a little more freedom in year 1 than in year 2, because the forces that be... not just Les... begin to influence the play calling more so than in year one of the O.C.'s? It appears that the majority of answers here are well thought and convincing that this isn't the case...
Posted on 10/7/14 at 10:02 pm to TopsInAmericaTim
All of the incoming OCs inherited a senior QB their first year.
Crowton came in for the 2007 season and had senior Matt Flynn. (Flynn should have been followed with Perrilloux, but instead was followed by Hatch, who was not experienced, and the freshmen JJ/JL... understandable drop off)
Studrawa was promoted to OC going into 2011 (I think); inherited two seniors: JL and JJ. His next year was Mett's first as starter. Mett had barely any playing experience with LSU... It is debatable whether the offense was better in 2011 or 2012. And for the last 2 or 3 games, 2011 offense was not good at all.
Cameron's first year, he gets Mettenberger's last year. His 2nd year, he's got two very inexperienced QBs.
1st year = senior QBs
2nd year = freshmen or inexperienced QBs
That is your pattern.
Crowton came in for the 2007 season and had senior Matt Flynn. (Flynn should have been followed with Perrilloux, but instead was followed by Hatch, who was not experienced, and the freshmen JJ/JL... understandable drop off)
Studrawa was promoted to OC going into 2011 (I think); inherited two seniors: JL and JJ. His next year was Mett's first as starter. Mett had barely any playing experience with LSU... It is debatable whether the offense was better in 2011 or 2012. And for the last 2 or 3 games, 2011 offense was not good at all.
Cameron's first year, he gets Mettenberger's last year. His 2nd year, he's got two very inexperienced QBs.
1st year = senior QBs
2nd year = freshmen or inexperienced QBs
That is your pattern.
This post was edited on 10/7/14 at 10:04 pm
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