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re: 10 yrs from now, who goes down as the greatest LSU coach?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:26 pm to tubucoco
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:26 pm to tubucoco
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Those early circa 2000 teams were nowhere near as talented as the teams after he won the NC in 2003 a
What? OK Ok you clearly don't remember our 2001 roster
Rohan Davey
Josh Reed
Bradie James
trev Faulk
Dominak DAVIS
Devery Henderson
Eddie Royal
Labrandon Toefield
Chad Lavalais
Jarvis Green
Kendrick allen
Ryan Clark
Stephen peterman
That is more talent than all but a few of Miles teams. That 2001 team had 13 future nfl players and he lost 3 games.
And that's no even counting talented freshman.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 5:27 pm
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:28 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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It's not even debatable. Miles is leaving a better program than he inherited. Miles is leaving a program that has finished ranked in the top 15 8 of his 10 seasons
miles took over a team 1 year removed from a SEC & NC title. new coach (fisher) will take over a team 8 years removed a 2 loss NC & 5 years removed from a sec title. but you think miles is leaving the program better than he found it?Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:30 pm to tubucoco
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You are blind by your love for Miles into thinking Miles' is a better coach and that just ain't true.
Again, stating facts about Miles tenure isn't loving Miles. It's called reality. Saban at Bama is fat better than Miles but that's not what we are discussing. We are discussing lsu coach's and it's not debatable that MILES has been the better LSU coach because FACTS prove it.
Also it's laughable that you give Saban a pass for losing to UAB. You don't need to lose to shite programs to build a program. That's just dumb.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:31 pm to Rickdaddy4188
And those guys were talented individual players not all playing on the same team. Some on different teams. But we are talkin abut teams. Talented teams! Not individuals! Your delusional, man if you are tryin to say he had more talent early in his career than later on when he won the NC and started LSU on it's way.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 5:36 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:33 pm to the crue
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miles took over a team 1 year removed from a SEC & NC title.
Miles took over a program that had lost less than 3 games 1 time in 5 years.
FACTS.
Miles is leaving a program that has just had its most successful era ever and has been ranked in the top 25 more weeks than any program since his hire
He is leaving a program that has beaten more ranked teams than any program since his hire
He is leaving a program that has finished in the top 15 8 out of the last 10 years.
These are facts. I'm sorry these facts prove your opinions wrong. Deal with it.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:33 pm to Rickdaddy4188
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It's called reality.
Wrong! Your reality! You are seriously tripin! Seriously, you ain't stating facts.This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 5:37 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:34 pm to tubucoco
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And those guys were talented players not all playing on the same team.
That's our 2001 roster.
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Yout delusional, man if you are tryin to say he had more talent early in his career than later on when he won the NC and started LSU on it's way.
Im saying he had more than enough talent to lose less than 3 games more than once in 5 years. He is supposed to be this god coach when he was at lsu.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:37 pm to tubucoco
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Wrong! Your reality! You are seriously tripin!
What?
Since Miles was hired
Lsu has finished in the top 15 7 of his 10 seasons. Not my opinion. It's a fact.
Lsu has finished top 10 6 of his 10 ten season . not my opinion. it's a fact
Lsu has beaten more ranked teams than any program. Not my opinion. it's a fact
Lsu has been ranked in the top 25 more weeks than any program. Not my opinion. It's a fact.
Mileshas one of the best win % in sec history. Not my opinion. It's a fact.
Miles has the #1 ooc win % in sec history. Not my opinion. It's a fact
So tell me again how this isn't reality?
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 5:39 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:46 pm to tubucoco
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And those guys were talented individual players not all playing on the same team. Some on different teams.
That's our 2001 roster. Do you want to continue proving you don't know about our early 2000's?
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:47 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Man, your got damn hatred for Saban is making you come off sounding like a bitter tool. I don't care what you put down about Miles in his tenure at LSU. Truth be told he should have accomplished all that taking over a program that was on the way up and just maintaining ship with the talent in place and the talent now starting to come in from Saban winning a NC. Saban had talented individuals early on like in that list you provided, but the overall talent and depth of his teams were nowhere near what he had started to achieve in winning the NC and afterwards had he chose to stay. Question is if he had stayed. I wonder how many NC's he had won with the snowball starting to roll by then. Miles managed to win one. But Saban would have probably had the dynasty at LSU instead of Alabama.
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 5:53 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:49 pm to Tyson53
Arnsbarger best all around coach ever. If we could have held onto him we would have been great for four or five more years.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:49 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Some played together and then jumped to the NFL. I know I don't need a refresher. But once again your missing my point. Talented teams and depth. Not talented individuals that stood out on those early teams. that's what it's all about. TEAM
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:53 pm to guttata
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Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:56 pm to tubucoco
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hatred for Saban
Too bad he was ever here. Miles could have done so much more with Dinardo's recruits.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:57 pm to tubucoco
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Man, your got damn hatred for Saban is making you come off sounding like a bitter tool.
Again, stating FACTS about their tenure isn't hating or loving. It's reality. Just admit you had no idea how talented his early teams were.
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don't care what you put down about Miles in his tenure at LSU.
What I put down? That is what happened. It's reality. No amount ignorance will change it.
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Truth be told he should have accomplished all that taking over a program that was on the way up and just maintaining ship with the talent in place and the talent now starting to come in from Saban winning a NC.
And here it is folks. Any dumbass could've done what Miles did. This just proves how little you know about lsu's history and cfb. If Saban was this coaching god at lsu why did he lose 3 games with the same roster that Miles won the west with?
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list you provided, but the overall talent and depth of his teams were nowhere near what he had started to achieve in winning the NC a
His 2000& 2001 roster was more talented than his 2004 roster. Just admit you have no idea about our early 2000 teams.
quote:Saban wasn't this coaching god like you think wheb he was at lsu. He had talented rosters every fricking year and lost less than 3 games once. Saban at lsu isn't as good as Saban at bama. You do realize that Bama throws way more money into cfb than we do right? Bama's recruiting budget is 8 times ( literally 8 times) bigger than LSU'S budget. Just for that reason alone Saban wouldn't have been as successful at lsu as he has been at Bama.
Question is if he had stayed. I wonder how many NC's he had won with the snowballing started to roll then.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 5:58 pm to tubucoco
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Some played together and then jumped to the NFL. I know I don't need a refresher.
The names I poster are all from 2001 and aren't even including talented freshman like Michael Clayton, Randall gay, Marcus spears, Corey webster,and Ben wilkerson.
Our 2001 roster is one of the top 5 most talented rosters in lsu history and we lost 3 games. That roster is far more talented than the 2013 roster that Miles get blasted for losing 3 games with
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 6:02 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 6:02 pm to tubucoco
What is Les better at than Nick Saban regarding coaching?
Building a program, no.
Maintaining, no.
Adapting, no.
Gameplanning, no.
In-game adjustments, no.
Developing players, no.
Recruiting, no.
Head to head, no.
Championships, no.
Im having a hard time choosing the guy with all the nos as our greatest coach.
Building a program, no.
Maintaining, no.
Adapting, no.
Gameplanning, no.
In-game adjustments, no.
Developing players, no.
Recruiting, no.
Head to head, no.
Championships, no.
Im having a hard time choosing the guy with all the nos as our greatest coach.
Posted on 11/26/15 at 6:03 pm to grape nutz
trick plays
Posted on 11/26/15 at 6:05 pm to Rickdaddy4188
Calling Saban a coaching god is proof to how delusional you are. Saban is a good coach and all, but he's def susceptible to failing and being beaten. He's not perfect! And yes, I was right there watching the early 2000 teams, so I know what he had back then. Like I said. Talented individuals don't equate to talented teams.
but you go preaching about the greatness of Miles if it makes you feel better. Alright, RickDaddy! I like you, so I'll concede. Good points!
but you go preaching about the greatness of Miles if it makes you feel better. Alright, RickDaddy! I like you, so I'll concede. Good points!
This post was edited on 11/26/15 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 11/26/15 at 6:09 pm to tubucoco
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Like I said. Talented individuals don't equate to talented teams.
Holy shite.
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but you go preaching about the greatness of Miles if it makes you feel better.
Again , stating facts about Miles' tenure isn't preaching. It's called reality. I'm sorry that facts prove Miles was a good coach at lsu. Deal with it. I find it funny you think facts are my opinions.
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