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The Safety who we Sign - may end up better than Hootie
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:14 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:14 pm
Let the Hootie decision be...he has to live with his decision, and it may be right or wrong for him in the end. Based on obvious need, his path to starting and getting to the NFL faster was better at LSU. That's fairly apparent. But he didn't want to be a Tiger. We now can go out and get someone who may very well be better than he would have been. There have been more LA players at Bama that didn't pan out there or in the pros, than actually have. It's butthurt on decision day, but then it's done. We move on.
Being a Louisianian and going to LSU, that's like family. No matter what happens, you're home. When your football career is done and you want a job, playing at LSU could be a bonus with many small employers who are way more likely to be LSU fans than Bama fans. Go play at Bama and come back to LA, well, good luck if your prospective boss is an LSU fan. If you stay in Bama, but were not a star at Bama and you're from out of state, then you are nothing. It's not your home. That's just life.
On the other hand, maybe the decision was purely football. If Hootie believes playing for Saban will help his NFL career, than who can argue that? But that's providing he actually succeeds there - and Saban stays (doubtful for 3 more years).
But you can't be hard on the kid. It's his life. We just need to be smarter with recruiting in NE Louisiana. We ignored Sims and maybe lost out on 2 other guys because of it. We have recruited other receivers with less potential than Sims, so why we didn't baffles me. Bama saw the relationship between the 3 players and offered Sims. If he works out for them, fine, if not, he will be processed. But in the end he will have done for Bama what they wanted him to do.
Time to move on and get Plan B.
Being a Louisianian and going to LSU, that's like family. No matter what happens, you're home. When your football career is done and you want a job, playing at LSU could be a bonus with many small employers who are way more likely to be LSU fans than Bama fans. Go play at Bama and come back to LA, well, good luck if your prospective boss is an LSU fan. If you stay in Bama, but were not a star at Bama and you're from out of state, then you are nothing. It's not your home. That's just life.
On the other hand, maybe the decision was purely football. If Hootie believes playing for Saban will help his NFL career, than who can argue that? But that's providing he actually succeeds there - and Saban stays (doubtful for 3 more years).
But you can't be hard on the kid. It's his life. We just need to be smarter with recruiting in NE Louisiana. We ignored Sims and maybe lost out on 2 other guys because of it. We have recruited other receivers with less potential than Sims, so why we didn't baffles me. Bama saw the relationship between the 3 players and offered Sims. If he works out for them, fine, if not, he will be processed. But in the end he will have done for Bama what they wanted him to do.
Time to move on and get Plan B.
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 3:59 pm
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Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:15 pm to MetTiger
Another move on thread? Sweet.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:16 pm to MetTiger
Somebody got hootie pregnant?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:17 pm to MetTiger
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We ignored Sims and maybe lost out on 2 other guys because of it. We have recruited other receivers with less potential than Sims, so why we didn't baffles me.
We didn't ignore him. He refused to camp at LSU to EARN an offer.
We also have 3 more talented WR's in this state in Trey Quinn, Speedy Noil, and Malachi Dupre. So taking Sims over any of those 3, or Saeed Blacknall/Upchurch/Ihenacho(sp) at the time was idiocy. You don't just get an offer, you have to earn it, and the coaches felt he didn't show enough on film alone to get it.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:19 pm to MetTiger
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Plan B WILL end up better than Hootie
FIFY
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:23 pm to Geauxld Finger
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We didn't ignore him. He refused to camp at LSU to EARN an offer. We also have 3 more talented WR's in this state in Trey Quinn, Speedy Noil, and Malachi Dupre. So taking Sims over any of those 3, or Saeed Blacknall/Upchurch/Ihenacho(sp) at the time was idiocy. You don't just get an offer, you have to earn it, and the coaches felt he didn't show enough on film alone to get it.
fully understand that. I'm just saying it was fairly apparent that CRob was butthurt we didn't offer Sims and then those two got in Hooties ear. It's all about winning the war, not the battle.
But just maybe the LSU coaches saw something more in Adams or someone else than Hootie. On the same token are we obligated to take a guy from instate if someone else is better? Recruiting rankings aren't everything. If they were, USC and Texas would have been the BCS champs 15 of the last 20 years.....
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:24 pm to harry coleman beast
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Somebody got hootie pregnant?
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:32 pm to ZTiger87
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Plan B WILL end up better than Hootie
Actually, having 50% less penalties and better tackling overall makes up for Hootie all by itself.
It really isn't the end of the world. As long as we have a glaring need at safety, players will come. And they won't has bus tire tracks running over their backs....
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:34 pm to teeMike
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Plan B WILL end up better than Hootie
This. We NEED to land Adams, and as far as I am concerned he is more of what we need right now than Hootie is. That being speed
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:36 pm to MetTiger
frick that, I can blame him and hate his guts with conviction. Why, because he is now the enemy. He made his decision and he gets the good with the bad. I hope he has a horrible career and nothing but misfortune while at Alabama. It's nothing personal, it just goes along with being a fresh piece of tiger bait. I look forward to supporting the young man who has the chest to fill his position.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:40 pm to MetTiger
Well put.
I would also add that I am glad he got it out of the way early, and he earned being an EE, and now we have a legit shot to find a new starter on this defense,
I would also add that I am glad he got it out of the way early, and he earned being an EE, and now we have a legit shot to find a new starter on this defense,
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:41 pm to LSU FREAK
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frick that, I can blame him and hate his guts with conviction. Why, because he is now the enemy.
That's a little strong personally, but as a team, anyone else other than LSU is Tiger Bait, for sure - especially Bama.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 3:54 pm to MetTiger
We should stop referring to anyone as Plan B. It's rather insulting. It's like saying your parents really wanted a girl, but they are OK with the fact that you are a boy, or that your spouse was OK with her fallback choice.
If you are implying that Jamal Adams is a Plan B, I do not see that being the case. I think he was a guy we wanted, but we always assumed he was UF bound. Now that UF has the fourth best program in Florida, Jamal has opened up his options. One of those options - hopefully his #1 option - is LSU. From what I read about him, and the videos I have seen, a year from now, when Jamal is wearing purple and gold, Hootie's decision will just be a bad memory.
And don't be too hard on Hootie. I am sure there were a lot of people in Florida who were not happy with PP7 leaving the state either.
If you are implying that Jamal Adams is a Plan B, I do not see that being the case. I think he was a guy we wanted, but we always assumed he was UF bound. Now that UF has the fourth best program in Florida, Jamal has opened up his options. One of those options - hopefully his #1 option - is LSU. From what I read about him, and the videos I have seen, a year from now, when Jamal is wearing purple and gold, Hootie's decision will just be a bad memory.
And don't be too hard on Hootie. I am sure there were a lot of people in Florida who were not happy with PP7 leaving the state either.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:00 pm to Cajun Tifoso
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We should stop referring to anyone as Plan B.
You're right - fixed the OP. But in football, as in life, there's what you want, then there is Plan B (even if you don't call it that)
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:05 pm to Cajun Tifoso
Yes, everyone on this board needs to squash the misconception that Adams is the backup plan for Hootie whenever it pops up. It would probably piss Adams off to read that and they are way different players that will be used differently. Both are takes, it just so happens that both of Adams former leaders are having to squash rumors about firing their coaches and that has opened the door over the past month or so. It's purely coincidence that we're turning the heat up on him this close to Hootie announcing.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:11 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Honestly, I don't think there is a safety out there who doesn't think the heat is turning up because of Hootie not committing. It's recruiting. I think they are smart enough to understand we had to make a LA player a priority.
But again, are we really sure that Adams isn't the guy we wanted all along? It's complicated but recruiting works in ways we just don't always know.
But again, are we really sure that Adams isn't the guy we wanted all along? It's complicated but recruiting works in ways we just don't always know.
This post was edited on 12/2/13 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:14 pm to TheDrunkenTigah
Yes, I agree with you. Adams was a take regardless of what Hootie decided. It does no one (LSU, Adams) any good to falsely call Adams "Plan B".
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:16 pm to MetTiger
I agree that people recognize that we are turning up the heat on other kick-arse safeties. As we start to look at them, they start to look at us. Sometimes we get too focused on in-state recruits that we forget to recognize that LSU has nation-wide appeal.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:18 pm to MetTiger
Said it a long time ago, we should have offered Sims if it increased our chances with two of the best players in the nation at positions of need.
Posted on 12/2/13 at 4:18 pm to MetTiger
hootie looks like he will be pudgy.. not sure of his speed and his angles aren't all that from the film i seen.
i don't know about the rest of the class but the safety out of texas honestly impresses me more the way he attacks the carrier.. as well as his measurables.
i would love hootie, but if they can get that guy i am honestly far more happy.
i don't know about the rest of the class but the safety out of texas honestly impresses me more the way he attacks the carrier.. as well as his measurables.
i would love hootie, but if they can get that guy i am honestly far more happy.
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