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Real truth about how stars matter on lb's
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:21 pm
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:21 pm
For everyone who thinks that you have to have 5 star linebackers
Luke kuechley (3 stars) rank 565
Bobby Wagner (2 star) rank 2097
Novorro Bowman (3 star) rank 221
Top 3 linebackers in the nfl
Luke kuechley (3 stars) rank 565
Bobby Wagner (2 star) rank 2097
Novorro Bowman (3 star) rank 221
Top 3 linebackers in the nfl
This post was edited on 12/12/16 at 10:22 pm
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Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:23 pm to bearfan22
Don't forget about Patrick Willis.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:25 pm to bearfan22
This could go for many other positions too. So many kids develop late and peak early which is why near half of the 5* don't pan out.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:25 pm to OGTiger
Agree on him. Also the next rising star is khalil mack. 2 stars
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:29 pm to bearfan22
One of the best post of the day. Aranda will churn out lbs and I trust whoever he wants.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:32 pm to bearfan22
Have we really dropped to this level.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:33 pm to CBP3110
True, but it's still a better bet that a 5star will play at least like a 3 star, than a 3 star like a 5 Star.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:38 pm to bearfan22
Yep, Bama been winning with 2 and 3 star LBs, right?
GTFOOH
GTFOOH
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:42 pm to ctiger69
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Have we really dropped to this level.
Sorry but this is 100% accurate.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:44 pm to ctiger69
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Have we really dropped to this level.
To evaluating talent no matter the * rating??
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:47 pm to airportwhiskey
J.J. Watt 2*
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:47 pm to bearfan22
Debo Jones was a 3* coming out of Jesuit. He's doing ok on Sundays these days.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 10:56 pm to TigerAxeOK
Pretty sure Minter was a three star same with Kwon.
Posted on 12/12/16 at 11:21 pm to bearfan22
This discussion gets brought up every year and it's not valid. There are very few players rated five stars, there are many many more players rated as 3 stars and 2 stars compared to the blue chip prospects. So of course some are going to come out of that large pool and become great players. But when you look at the numbers, the star system does pretty well at indicating improved chance of making it to the NFL with a higher rating out of high school
Posted on 12/12/16 at 11:28 pm to CBP3110
Kwon was a high 4 star
Posted on 12/12/16 at 11:57 pm to bearfan22
according to star rankings Clifton Garrett was probably the best LB we signed in the past 10 years.
he played in 3 games accumulating zero stats.
but don't fall into the "stars don't matter" trap either.
we picked up a nice 4 star today. despite the doom and gloom scenario Jimmy Details is selling, LSU currently has the 5th rated class for 2017. -- and that is without Narcisse.
Losing guys like Moses and Allen to Bama does hurt, but LSU will close strong. There is still a ways to go before NSD.
he played in 3 games accumulating zero stats.
but don't fall into the "stars don't matter" trap either.
we picked up a nice 4 star today. despite the doom and gloom scenario Jimmy Details is selling, LSU currently has the 5th rated class for 2017. -- and that is without Narcisse.
Losing guys like Moses and Allen to Bama does hurt, but LSU will close strong. There is still a ways to go before NSD.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 2:11 am to bearfan22
Wow , have you done the math on how many 4&5 stars are in the NFL? Or did you just pick a few exceptions? Seems like a legit study, let's go after 2&3*'s. You do realize that someone can do the same for just about every other position.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 4:02 am to bearfan22
I 
at people who think stars don't matter... It is really comical at this point
at people who think stars don't matter... It is really comical at this pointPosted on 12/13/16 at 4:24 am to bearfan22
The correlation between star rankings and win totals is there. But I think that is because you are talking 4 & 5* at many/most/all positions for a team, at a team sport and then throw in depth.
So to put together winning seasons with conf champs- you better have a bunch of 4/5* and do it year over year.
On a 1-on-1 level, yes you can get some 3* and develop them, or the mature late. But the law of averages says if you count on that at many positions, you will fail as a team.
So to put together winning seasons with conf champs- you better have a bunch of 4/5* and do it year over year.
On a 1-on-1 level, yes you can get some 3* and develop them, or the mature late. But the law of averages says if you count on that at many positions, you will fail as a team.
Posted on 12/13/16 at 4:33 am to I20goon
Using this year's numbers from 247
5* - 23
4* - 283
3* - 1707
2* - 1215
So almost 6x the amount of 3* players vs 4* & 5* players, I would hope a few hit...
5* - 23
4* - 283
3* - 1707
2* - 1215
So almost 6x the amount of 3* players vs 4* & 5* players, I would hope a few hit...
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