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Ohio State, UM, and LSU lead recruiting, BAMA has no presence -why?
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:38 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:38 pm
While Ohio State and the U are racking up and LSU is a solid third in recruiting BAMA has virtually no presence on any recruiting boards with only 5 commitments.While this will undoubtedly change at this stage they are usually in the top five. Has there been a change that has quietly evolved? Have the staff changes over the last two seasons begun to show in recruiting? Did Lane and Kirby have that much effect?
Certainly not complaining just observing and hoping they remain outside of the top 20, though they probably will end up in the top 10 when its all done.
Certainly not complaining just observing and hoping they remain outside of the top 20, though they probably will end up in the top 10 when its all done.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:42 pm to tigersbb
Not saying this is the full reason, but Saban's age will start to play a role in the next few years. Similar to how it impacted Bobby Bowden and Florida State in the mid 2000's.
Saban has much more in the tank than Bowden though.
Saban has much more in the tank than Bowden though.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 1:43 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:49 pm to tigersbb
I think there's a few factors.
One might be, they are going after top dogs and fighting against big universities across the nation. These type of recruits always announce late as they have tough decisions to make between a lot of great schools.
Ohio States success in recruiting is attracting a lot of kids' attention right now. Same with Clemson, they locked up 2 great looking quarterbacks back to back and have shown they are one of the only schools that can compete and even beat Bama, erasing some of the mystique of being an unbeatable giant.
Then there is the fact that Bama has put together so many recruiting classes packed full of 4 and 5 stars. Roster spots start getting a little thin at that point, and you scare away some kids that want to play sooner rather than later.
All that said, I expect them to end top 5 again, and I would be shocked if they didn't at least make top 10.
One might be, they are going after top dogs and fighting against big universities across the nation. These type of recruits always announce late as they have tough decisions to make between a lot of great schools.
Ohio States success in recruiting is attracting a lot of kids' attention right now. Same with Clemson, they locked up 2 great looking quarterbacks back to back and have shown they are one of the only schools that can compete and even beat Bama, erasing some of the mystique of being an unbeatable giant.
Then there is the fact that Bama has put together so many recruiting classes packed full of 4 and 5 stars. Roster spots start getting a little thin at that point, and you scare away some kids that want to play sooner rather than later.
All that said, I expect them to end top 5 again, and I would be shocked if they didn't at least make top 10.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 1:50 pm to tigersbb
Because Saban is filling his class judiciously with the top players he can find at every position. I'm sure Orgeron is getting good guys, but Bama will close with a class that is rated way higher than LSU's.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:05 pm to Penrod
saban cherry picks. he'll close with 27 5 stars. idk how they do it. the façade that only bama players make the pros. everywhere else, its early playing time and closeness to home. they get 5 stars to come from halfway across the globe and sit for 3 years.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:07 pm to tigersbb
I've done a few bama edits.. they're coming don't worry.... have some good kids heading their way BUT NOT FROM THE BOOT. That's why you haven't heard much. O is winning that battle this year
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:24 pm to Penrod
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Because Saban is filling his class judiciously with the top players he can find at every position. I'm sure Orgeron is getting good guys, but Bama will close with a class that is rated way higher than LSU's.
Saban recruits judiciously every year and it seems they are at about 80% by this time of year, but not this time.
I wouldn't be so sure on finishing ahead of LSU this time. LSU has about 6 spots left and some of those are 5 stars or high 4 stars. Of course the BAMA bounce may play a part, but its going to be a wild finish with early signing date playing a factor this time.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 2:58 pm to tigersbb
Their raw numbers are holding them down now. Once Bama (Bamasession continues, BTW) fills out their class, they'll be competitive if only with the Bama bounce.
Honestly, I think we've seen "Peak Bama" - Pruitt was a quality hire, but Daboll is kind of a headscratcher - maybe Nicky is just sticking with folks he can trust now - a "bunker" mentality, but here's a guy who could have nabbed any of a half dozen top flight college coaches, either HCs at mid-majors or poaching other OCs, and went with Daboll who hasn't coached in college or recruited since he was Saban's GA at Michigan State in 1999?
That's crazy. Especially when Saban can afford an understudy of pal as DC, but not OC. I know more about coaching offense than Saban does, and I don't know anything about it. And, it may be showing. I doubt it will be fatal, but enough to have them behind in June and having to play catch up in October/November.
Honestly, I think we've seen "Peak Bama" - Pruitt was a quality hire, but Daboll is kind of a headscratcher - maybe Nicky is just sticking with folks he can trust now - a "bunker" mentality, but here's a guy who could have nabbed any of a half dozen top flight college coaches, either HCs at mid-majors or poaching other OCs, and went with Daboll who hasn't coached in college or recruited since he was Saban's GA at Michigan State in 1999?
That's crazy. Especially when Saban can afford an understudy of pal as DC, but not OC. I know more about coaching offense than Saban does, and I don't know anything about it. And, it may be showing. I doubt it will be fatal, but enough to have them behind in June and having to play catch up in October/November.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:06 pm to Ace Midnight
Big fish typically commit later in the process. When that said, they will get several between now and start of senior year.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:25 pm to Blupard
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One might be, they are going after top dogs and fighting against big universities across the nation. These type of recruits always announce late as they have tough decisions to make between a lot of great schools.
This is probably the reason. Most of their remaining guys are going to be blue chippers who will announce late.
Hopefully it's this
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Then there is the fact that Bama has put together so many recruiting classes packed full of 4 and 5 stars. Roster spots start getting a little thin at that point, and you scare away some kids that want to play sooner rather than later.
Saban isn't going to be around FOREVER.
combined with the fact that Kiffin, Cristobal (top 10 recruiter last year) and Napier left. That leaves Burton Burns and Tosh Lupoi as the only assistants who were on the team during the 2015 season. Obviously that means several recruits are re-developing relationships with new coaches.. etc.
Unfortunately, (outside of Saban) Burns and Lupoi are the two I would most prefer gone.
But, I mean, it's got to be start becoming a narrative that even though Bama consistently recruits the top players they're still losing (or not directly competing for) more national championships than they win. So, playing time, distance from home, flucking Tuscaloosa, and other factors might start to overshadow the perception of a guaranteed championship.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 3:27 pm to tigersbb
Who cares stop talking Bama recruiting here
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:26 pm to Brunedog
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Who cares stop talking Bama recruiting here
what is it to you what the hell I comment on? Don't read it if you are not interested You don't think BAMA recruiting is relevant to LSU? It damn well matters every November? For the record, I referenced LSU in my comments if like you.
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:28 pm to tigersbb
It's June.
This post was edited on 6/27/17 at 4:28 pm
Posted on 6/27/17 at 4:47 pm to Rabid Tiger
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Saban's age will start to play a role in the next few years. Similar to how it impacted Bobby Bowden and Florida State in the mid 2000's.
Bowden got lazy, rested on his laurels and delegated. That ain't happening with Saban.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:03 am to arkytiger23
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I've done a few bama edits.. they're coming don't worry.... have some good kids heading their way BUT NOT FROM THE BOOT. That's why you haven't heard much. O is winning that battle this year
Of course not from the boot, because the talent is way down in Louisiana this year. They cleaned up last year with several great Louisiana players.
Bama's class is going to finish high as always like every year for over half a decade.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 7:13 am to tigersbb
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what is it to you what the hell I comment on? Don't read it if you are not interested You don't think BAMA recruiting is relevant to LSU? It damn well matters every November? For the record, I referenced LSU in my comments if like you.
The problem with LSU is that they haven't had the QB play and type of offense to beat Bama. LSU has the talent and you don't even need a dominant defense to beat them. You just can't be predictable and your QB has to be a playmaker.
Posted on 6/28/17 at 8:05 am to Rabid Tiger
Lsu is only in top tier due to volume, #s.
After all schools are at about 25 committed in january, lsu will be top 15 unless surtain and another 5 star go lsu.
Look down the list. Miami is real. Richt doing work.
Ideally three or 4 of the three stars are bumped by late fall and lsu will stay top 10.
After all schools are at about 25 committed in january, lsu will be top 15 unless surtain and another 5 star go lsu.
Look down the list. Miami is real. Richt doing work.
Ideally three or 4 of the three stars are bumped by late fall and lsu will stay top 10.
This post was edited on 6/28/17 at 8:07 am
Posted on 6/28/17 at 2:01 pm to tigersbb
Never fear, they will get the NO. 1 class even if the recruiting sites have to bump some zero stars that they get to commit to them.
Money talks in ALABAMA and Saban is an expert at handling the money.
Money talks in ALABAMA and Saban is an expert at handling the money.
Posted on 6/29/17 at 5:28 am to tigersbb
Wrong board,this is not the Bama board, please move this drivel
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