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How good is your high school at getting athletes recognized?
Posted on 7/12/15 at 8:44 pm
Posted on 7/12/15 at 8:44 pm
I went to Byrd which had over 2,000 kids. The only notable players to come out of the football program was Jonathan Stewart and Arnaz Battle. Jonathan Stewart's dad was a judge and single-handedly got him recognized with offers from Texas Tech, Cal, Bama, and A&M. Arnaz Battle was just a freak athlete that couldn't go unnoticed. I graduated in '11 and remember the football players that were there before me and while I was there. There was a lot of talent. It seemed if you didn't go to Evangel or Calvary you would go unnoticed. Morris Claiborne somehow didn't even have a highlight tape. Is it coaches lack of care for players past high school?
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Posted on 7/12/15 at 8:50 pm to Tamer of beasts
I went to Pineville and we had a few guys that could have gone to bigger schools then Northwestern and southern but the coaches never tried to help. I went to the Lsu football camp and tried to bring them with me but couldn't afford it.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 8:52 pm to Biggmatt78
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How good is your high school at getting athletes recognized?
I went to Pineville and we had a few guys that could have gone to bigger schools then Northwestern and southern but the coaches never tried to help. I went to the Lsu football camp and tried to bring them with me but couldn't afford it.
Pretty much what I was about to post.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 9:09 pm to Tamer of beasts
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I went to Byrd which had over 2,000 kids. The only notable players to come out of the football program was Jonathan Stewart and Arnaz Battle. Jonathan Stewart's dad was a judge and single-handedly got him recognized with offers from Texas Tech, Cal, Bama, and A&M. Arnaz Battle was just a freak athlete that couldn't go unnoticed. I graduated in '11 and remember the football players that were there before me and while I was there. There was a lot of talent. It seemed if you didn't go to Evangel or Calvary you would go unnoticed. Morris Claiborne somehow didn't even have a highlight tape. Is it coaches lack of care for players past high school?
Byrd '07
Coaches did the bare minimum in terms of getting players noticed. Even though the teams before us and after had some legit talent. Camps were never discussed at all and most players had no clue about them. The only thing the coaches did would send out a couple tapes at most and that was mainly during a players senior year, by then it's pretty much too late.
Honestly I'm not sure if they just didn't care or were ignorant. Probably a combination of both. I do know that we had some legitimate D1 talent. I can think of at least three guys that had freakish genetics/abilities.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 10:26 pm to whodidthat
Honestly Byrd has had some athletes that could play but running wing T is a big reason I believe a lot go unnoticed. At least on the offensive side of the ball but yes I know for a fact Calvary and evangel have guys that their job is to promote the athletes, make highlight film, talk to coaches, etc.
Posted on 7/12/15 at 10:51 pm to Olddawg
Went to acadiana high. Knew well and graduated with alley broussard
Posted on 7/12/15 at 11:02 pm to Tamer of beasts
CHS in the 90's had recruiters coming even when they weren't recruiting a specific person yet just to see what was coming down the pipe. But that was when CHS was putting quite a few kids in major college programs.
In 1996 alone:
- the starting QB ( Applewhite) and cornerback/receiver (Greg Brown) went to UT-Austin
- 1st team senior RB was national player of the year and went to FSU (Travis Minor)
- 2nd team senior RB went to Clemson (Boone)
- 3rd team junior RB went to Kentucky (Shanklin)
- 4th team sophomore RB went to Georgia Tech (Hatch?)
- other WR went to Navy (Brian Williams)
- 2nd team QB went to Southern, I think (Anthony Fisher)
- 3rd team QB went somewhere too but I forgot where (Brian Oliver)
Those are just the guys off the top of my head. That was just one year's team. My brother's junior year in 1991 saw something like 26 guys end up playing college football (at least that is the number my dad gave me). That included Todd White, Warrick Dunn, Kevin Franklin, and Rhaoul Guillaume off the top of my head.
CHS was a college football factory while Sid Edwards was the freshman football coach. The factory shut down basically immediately when he left.
In 1996 alone:
- the starting QB ( Applewhite) and cornerback/receiver (Greg Brown) went to UT-Austin
- 1st team senior RB was national player of the year and went to FSU (Travis Minor)
- 2nd team senior RB went to Clemson (Boone)
- 3rd team junior RB went to Kentucky (Shanklin)
- 4th team sophomore RB went to Georgia Tech (Hatch?)
- other WR went to Navy (Brian Williams)
- 2nd team QB went to Southern, I think (Anthony Fisher)
- 3rd team QB went somewhere too but I forgot where (Brian Oliver)
Those are just the guys off the top of my head. That was just one year's team. My brother's junior year in 1991 saw something like 26 guys end up playing college football (at least that is the number my dad gave me). That included Todd White, Warrick Dunn, Kevin Franklin, and Rhaoul Guillaume off the top of my head.
CHS was a college football factory while Sid Edwards was the freshman football coach. The factory shut down basically immediately when he left.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 12:47 am to lsudaboss
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Went to acadiana high. Knew well and graduated with alley broussard
I can still remember the stacks of recruiting letters on coach hanks desk for alley. We didn't have too many people play after high school though. Good to see that they are getting more recognition now.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 3:00 am to Tamer of beasts
My thing is, getting the word out on kids doesn't make them better prospects... you could have everyone know about your kids but if they're too small and a step slow...
Unless a kid is a certifiable freak, you have to win
Unless a kid is a certifiable freak, you have to win
This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 3:02 am
Posted on 7/13/15 at 6:19 am to chalmetteowl
WM does a good job of making reels. The biggest help is winning. More of a rising tide mentality. You have college recruiters pretty much at every practice as well as games when allowed. It wasn't out of the ordinary to walk out for a Tuesday practice and have coaches from Tennessee, Florida State, Miami, and LSU there to watch. Dinardo seemed to be there weekly.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 6:34 am to Tamer of beasts
Good we have a 2017 recruit that Les Miles is recruiting heavily. OT and of course CeCe Jefferson!
Posted on 7/13/15 at 8:54 am to floridatiger420
If a kid is good enough, he will get the scholarship. Big time schools spend millions on recruiting. No need to worry about your lazy high school coaches.
What can become an issue, is when you are equal to kids at more traditional powers. The kids at the traditional power high schools will always get the nod. Think about, if you were college coach would you snub a high school coach for a kid that may only be marginally better when that coach is sending you 2-3 kids a year?
Also, worth noting, is that the question is why some of the other high schools aren't developing that type of talent. Again, if you are good enough, you will get noticed.
What can become an issue, is when you are equal to kids at more traditional powers. The kids at the traditional power high schools will always get the nod. Think about, if you were college coach would you snub a high school coach for a kid that may only be marginally better when that coach is sending you 2-3 kids a year?
Also, worth noting, is that the question is why some of the other high schools aren't developing that type of talent. Again, if you are good enough, you will get noticed.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 9:12 am to Bige11
The best way for a kid to get recognized is by attending camps. However, kids should go to the camps that will most likely result in an offer. Going to LSU camps when you are clearly a Southeastern talent makes little sense.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 9:26 am to Tamer of beasts
I went to New Iberia. I graduated in 2001. We were almost a talent factory until they put Westgate on the other side of town.
To the Acadiana grad above me. Yall had some pretty good basketball talent around that time frame. I destroyed my ankle in jr year playing against those lanky bastards.
To the Acadiana grad above me. Yall had some pretty good basketball talent around that time frame. I destroyed my ankle in jr year playing against those lanky bastards.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 9:38 am to sjmabry
quote:This.........if a high school coach does not have a relationship with college coaches it will be very difficult for him to do anything for a player. What many parents and players don't realize is they have to market themselves, by going to camps and putting together videos.
The best way for a kid to get recognized is by attending camps. However, kids should go to the camps that will most likely result in an offer. Going to LSU camps when you are clearly a Southeastern talent makes little sense.
The Dylan Mosses types will always get recruited. It's the 3 star type talent that really has to do things to get noticed.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 10:06 am to dante
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This.........if a high school coach does not have a relationship with college coaches it will be very difficult for him to do anything for a player. What many parents and players don't realize is they have to market themselves, by going to camps and putting together videos.
The Dylan Mosses types will always get recruited. It's the 3 star type talent that really has to do things to get noticed.
Have an upvote sir!!
This is exactly how it works. It's not really the high school coach's job to market your son. Some of them do it as a favor or strictly because they love their job. A high school coach's job is to coach your son. Period! It is your job as a parent and player to market YOURSELF. It also has nothing to do with winning high school programs; all about how the specific college views you as a player and how you can help that college win/compete. Trust me, I know this first hand.
Posted on 7/13/15 at 10:15 am to TerrebonneTiger35
quote:from a player, parent or HS or college coach perspective?
Trust me, I know this first hand.
This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 10:18 am
Posted on 7/13/15 at 10:15 am to Tamer of beasts
I'd say Breaux Bridge is pretty consistent with football. Lots of baseball kids wind up playing for LSUe
Posted on 7/13/15 at 11:47 am to Bige11
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What can become an issue, is when you are equal to kids at more traditional powers. The kids at the traditional power high schools will always get the nod. Think about, if you were college coach would you snub a high school coach for a kid that may only be marginally better when that coach is sending you 2-3 kids a year?
Completely disagree with this statement. Your logic is sound, but not what we've seen practiced. Coaches will take the smaller school kid because the traditional power kid is thought of as maxed out. They've received top notch coaching as well as a solid strength and conditioning program already. A lot of times the smaller school kid is considered to possess a higher ceiling.
This post was edited on 7/13/15 at 11:48 am
Posted on 7/13/15 at 11:59 am to TerrebonneTiger35
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It's not really the high school coach's job to market your son.
As an educator, part of their job is to help the students find opportunities.
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