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re: Good chance that 11 5*s are drafted this year
Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:47 pm to VermilionTiger
Posted on 3/25/15 at 7:47 pm to VermilionTiger
But they won't play in a Super Bowl.
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Posted on 3/25/15 at 8:04 pm to tigersaint24
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We're in the running for 11 5*so this year
That's crazy. We should go after the 3's. The star system is corporate propaganda and bogus...
Posted on 3/25/15 at 9:26 pm to jacktown
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Star ranking means nothing when you step on a college campus its about who adapts better or works the hardest
Yes, you know your football recruiting. LOL. Of course 5 star athletes matter....they are far and away more likely to be successful. Some of you have no clue what you are talking about. Five star kids go on to the NFL at about a rate of 40%. I believe that Three star kids go on to the NFL at about a rate of less than 5%. So, tell me again that stars don't matter. With five star kids, roughly 8 in 20 turn out to be NFL caliber. With three star kids, roughly less than 1 in 20 make it on to the NFL.
Posted on 3/25/15 at 11:53 pm to Larry
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Oh yeah, but how many played in this past year's superbowl
I am so tired of this nonsense. To even start comparing star ratings once they get into the NFL is ridiculous. Not only are you dealing with 3, 4, and 5 years of physical and mental maturation, you're also dealing with scheme, technique, work ethic, and money.
Don't be goober guy and fall for the nonsense. One guy in particular is JJ Watt. Go look at some pictures and film of him as a high school player.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 7:07 am to VermilionTiger
Doesn't matter. There will be one 2 star that gets in the first round that truly proves the entire system is ludicrous.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 9:42 am to VermilionTiger
A little deceiving, no? They're not all from the same class, as I'm summing some are early enrollees, while others played for four years.
But don't get me wrong. Where LSU is concerned, I want five-star recruits. The more, the better.
But don't get me wrong. Where LSU is concerned, I want five-star recruits. The more, the better.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 10:00 am to TigerNE
I think this is where I'm supposed to jump in and say that CLM is the best at taking 3 stars and turning them into 5 stars....or am I in the wrong thread?
Posted on 3/26/15 at 11:07 am to Tiger Phanatick
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The rankings services are clearly showing these statistics to justify there rankings. If you dont feel that way good for you. But to me this is an agenda.
the only agenda i see here is your's and you dumping on the rankings. The ranking services may be promoting this story as positive PR for themselves, but they have no say in who gets drafted so their can't be an "agenda" as you put it, they have no control over what the NFL teams do.
Of course NFL teams don't or shouldn't care what a guys's star ranking was coming out of HS but the fact of that matter is a much larger percentage of 5* kids go on to make the NFL than other rankings. As a projection it is pretty damn good.
Posted on 3/26/15 at 11:24 am to H-Town Tiger
:rotflmao: I pay money every month to be on a site. Why would i dump them. Check my post history. I always love the team rankings. I participate in the Mock Draft on this site every year and the rankings are a huge factor in who I draft. So I dont have an agenda to knock rankings sir.
But I do think that they put out facts like this show that they are right and we told you so. And this is something they are proud of. If you dont think so more power to you! Listen you can feel differently so be it. Not going to argue with you about this article. I have never once dawged the sites about rankings. My only quarrel with them is the predictions. Which is still once again not a polished science more for entertainment value.
It's my opinion versus yours. I respect your opinion and you as a poster.
But if anyone ask me I would I not discourage the sites nor there rankings. But I dont have to say they are right just because they post this article to say they are and finally got it right in a guessing game.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 11:26 am
Posted on 3/26/15 at 11:32 am to Tiger Phanatick
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But I do think that they put out facts like this show that they are right and we told you so. And this is something they are proud of. If you dont think so more power to you!
Of course they put out positive PR. They are simply providing a counter to the stupid article about no 5*'s in the super bowl a few months ago. You said they have an agenda, having an agenda is implying they have something to do with the draft, or did something to make themselves look better which is not the case. It also has no bearing on weather the article is true.
When the story about how none of the SB starters were 5*s there was a parade of idiots on boards like this spouting off about how that "proves" *'s don't matter, this thread is a counter to that.
This post was edited on 3/26/15 at 11:38 am
Posted on 3/26/15 at 11:43 am to H-Town Tiger
IFrst off...I was not one of those idiots. once again I could care less. I love the entertainment value of it all. When I do my monthly budget that is what that 10 falls under.
You may have thought I was one but I am not. But releasing positive PR is an agenda. You are validating your business and its execution. In hopes that more people will buy into it.
If you have an issue with the word "Agenda" I get it. But I work in marketing and it's all to create ROI and clicks. Its actually smart business to put something out like this considering the SB article received so much buzz.
I would be disappointed if they didn't release these facts. But once again its something they released to back up there business model.
Just because they say we got it right doesn't mean this is a science and has any legs to it in the long run.
Guess what some cookies companies put Fat free on the labels doesn't mean eating cookies are healthy. Its an agenda to make us feel comfortable with eating cookies knowing that it causes pounds.
You may have thought I was one but I am not. But releasing positive PR is an agenda. You are validating your business and its execution. In hopes that more people will buy into it.
If you have an issue with the word "Agenda" I get it. But I work in marketing and it's all to create ROI and clicks. Its actually smart business to put something out like this considering the SB article received so much buzz.
I would be disappointed if they didn't release these facts. But once again its something they released to back up there business model.
Just because they say we got it right doesn't mean this is a science and has any legs to it in the long run.
Guess what some cookies companies put Fat free on the labels doesn't mean eating cookies are healthy. Its an agenda to make us feel comfortable with eating cookies knowing that it causes pounds.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 11:05 am to Tiger Phanatick
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Truthfully at the end of the day I could care less about rankings.
You are now a zen master in football recruiting.
Sign a 3* and coaches will be pilloried for not getting the 5* that signed Bama or TAMU.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 12:43 pm to VermilionTiger
interdasting. FWIW, what's the point of over thinking this? Great college players don't always equal great pros. So, who cares how many 5*'s play in the super bowl? No rating service is predicting what will happen after they have been in college. How many 5*'s in the NCCG, that's more interesting
Posted on 3/27/15 at 2:30 pm to Tiger Phanatick
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You may have thought I was one but I am not. But releasing positive PR is an agenda. You are validating your business and its execution. In hopes that more people will buy into it.
i gave no thought to whether you were or were not. The term agenda implies they had some say over who was drafted. Their business is to ranking HS players, where those kids may or may not be drafted years later has nothing to do with their business and even if every 5 star from one class was drafted in the first it does not validate their business any more than the story about no 5* starters in the Super Bowl diminishes their business.
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Just because they say we got it right doesn't mean this is a science and has any legs to it in the long run.
That is EXACTLY the point. It's not an exact science, and no one ever claimed it was. It's the idiots that spout off about how the rankings are wrong because no 5*'s started the SB or because some 2* was drafted in the first that don't grasp that.
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some cookies companies put Fat free on the labels doesn't mean eating cookies are healthy. Its an agenda to make us feel comfortable with eating cookies knowing that it causes pounds.
apples and oranges. the fat free cookies probably have no or at least reduced fat. That was a response to the hysteria mostly created by the government that fat was bad and clogging arteries that was touted as science and we are now finding out was mostly bunk to begin with.
Posted on 3/27/15 at 3:08 pm to H-Town Tiger
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The term agenda implies they had some say over who was drafted
How is that? You took it that way. I never implied anything to who was drafted. My comment was over the article.
So let me ask this what is rift with my comment. The bottom line is they do release facts like this and why? Why do you feel 247 created this article. Fun read maybe?
They wanted to keep score. Same reason the CB system has a ranking and number associated to it.
I honestly dont know what your quarrel is. I read the articles just like everyone else just like I read a lot of the trash and junk on this board. It is what it is. My opinion can differ from yours. I "FEEL" like this is there ah ha type of article.
And like you say.....people used the other article to discredit the rankings. I for one will still read the rankings and take them at face value.
And Still feel the purpose of this article was to say I told you so.
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