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Is Plaquimines Parish going to be un-insurable?

Posted on 8/31/12 at 6:52 pm
Posted by shipshoal
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Member since Nov 2005
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 6:52 pm
Serious question:

Unless you go up atleast 15 feet, who in the hell will cover anything?
I truly am starting to believe they need to designate this area un-inhabitable and will only allow camps and industry 'housing' in the area.
Posted by tgrbaitn08
Member since Dec 2007
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 6:52 pm to
No different than Grand Isle.
Posted by medtiger
Member since Sep 2003
21641 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 6:58 pm to
Garland Robinette brought up a similar topic this morning on WWL. He was basically saying that it would be great for them to build flood protection for all of these areas that currently don't have it, but where is the money going to come from? Does it make sense to spend millions or maybe even billions of dollars to protect the relatively few people that aren't protected?
This post was edited on 8/31/12 at 6:59 pm
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:06 pm to
Decimate the levees below Belle Chasse, and let the river run it's course to redistribute silt that is critical for wetlands and storm protection.
Posted by LSU316
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Member since Nov 2007
29275 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:08 pm to
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Decimate the levees below Belle Chasse, and let the river run it's course to redistribute silt that is critical for wetlands and storm protection.


A necessary evil that no politician will ever have the balls to do. Even if one got in that did have the balls he would fold under pressure before it got done. I guarantee it.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37306 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:14 pm to
Yeah, but this country is in financial ruin. People are about to have to make tough decisions. The Feds can't continue to shovel out money for shite like this when it doesn't have it.

Posted by BrerTiger
Valley of the Long Grey Cloud
Member since Sep 2011
21506 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:25 pm to
quote:

Decimate the levees below Belle Chasse, and let the river run it's course to redistribute silt that is critical for wetlands and storm protection.


Honestly, it's probably the best thing to do.

Spend money on elevating everything instead of on beefing up more levees for a sliver of land.

Political suicide though.

But in the long run, the Gulf is gonna take it all back if we don't do something to let the river do its thing. The pipe in Caernarvon is a good start but there needs to be a lot more done.
Posted by Schwartz
Member since Nov 2006
27097 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:26 pm to
When my parents sold their camp earlier this year, their flood deductible was $38,000. Camp was at 17'
Posted by Crawdaddy
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Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:28 pm to
Turn it into a WMA. State buy out and or keep it as a camp style place. Belle Chasse or just below to be the last town to live in. Everything else below, no levee and a wildlife management area. Sad but ......hey

But then will we get satsumas and oranges?
This post was edited on 8/31/12 at 7:30 pm
Posted by Mr Breeze
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:40 pm to
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Decimate the levees below Belle Chasse, and let the river run it's course to redistribute silt that is critical for wetlands and storm protection.



I've fished out of Empire and Venice for a long time and many fine people live down that way. But as much as it pains me to say, this is the correct perspective, the wetlands loss around the river in the past three decades is decimating the entire South East Louisiana region.
Posted by 4LSU2
Member since Dec 2009
37306 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 7:49 pm to
No doubt. Venice is the fish capital of the world. However, this ecosystem would certainly move further north to follow the salinity ratio that allows Venice to thrive. If something is not done, we will lose South LA, IMO.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 8/31/12 at 8:04 pm to
quote:

Decimate the levees below Belle Chasse, and let the river run it's course to redistribute silt that is critical for wetlands and storm protection.


This. All the money in the world is not going to be able to really protect this area if the wetlands continue to vanish. Have to draw a line in the sand somewhere and do what is right.
Posted by jlc05
Member since Nov 2005
32813 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 8:31 pm to
quote:

But then will we get satsumas and oranges?


And tomatoes. Becnels wont be on board with that idea.
Posted by TigerDog83
Member since Oct 2005
8273 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 8:39 pm to
quote:

This. All the money in the world is not going to be able to really protect this area if the wetlands continue to vanish. Have to draw a line in the sand somewhere and do what is right.


While it would probably help with subsidence, there is no way that special interests would allow this to happen. Oyster leases already have been in conflict with much of the coastal restoration efforts. Plaquemines parish has long been known for its corruption and these kinds of traits don't just disappear.
This post was edited on 8/31/12 at 9:07 pm
Posted by AlwysATgr
Member since Apr 2008
16342 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:03 pm to
The question in the OP needs to be asked. But IMO, the scope needs to be expanded. There were places in LaPlace and the Northshore that flooded that were not expected to flood. Basically, the levee system in place now protects certain areas but perturbates others. Eventually, the Corps of Engineers will concede defeat - physically and fiscally.

This was a Cat1 storm. Dunno what statistics show but my guess is that we can expect a Cat1 storm every 10-15 years.
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76111 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:07 pm to
quote:

Posted by 4LSU2 Decimate the levees below Belle Chasse, and let the river run it's course to redistribute silt that is critical for wetlands and storm protection.

This
Posted by biglego
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Member since Nov 2007
76111 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:11 pm to
quote:

While it would probably help with subsidence, there is no way that special interests would allow this to happen. Oyster leases already have been in conflict with much of the coastal restoration efforts. Plaquemines parish has long been known for its corruption and these kinds of traits don't just disappear.

Yup. The damn oystermen put up such a legal fight just for the diversion that it's probably stymied doing anything further.
Posted by MrLSU
Yellowstone, Val d'isere
Member since Jan 2004
25860 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:13 pm to
The places in LaPlace & the northshore have long been known trouble spots. The truth of the matter is if a Cat 4 or higher hits like Isaac did that the known flood plain extends all the way to I-12 and it could have been much worse for New Orleans, Jefferson, St Charles, etc. if the Miss River continued to reverse flow the way it did. Plaquemines, St Bernard, and parts of Orleans & Jefferson should be discussed. Plaquemines Parish is already a virtual ghost town after Katrina when the oil services industry largely left Plaquemines for Lafourche Parish and Galveston after the storm.
Posted by St Augustine
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Member since Mar 2006
64019 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:28 pm to
Agreed. They need very specific housing only. It's a losing battle. Need to let the river go.
Posted by notiger1997
Metairie
Member since May 2009
58062 posts
Posted on 8/31/12 at 9:48 pm to
quote:

This was a Cat1 storm. Dunno what statistics show but my guess is that we can expect a Cat1 storm every 10-15 years.


The problem is this bitch sat here for 2 plus days pushing water up into that area. Never had another hurricane do that.
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