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Sprinting vs Incline Walking
Posted on 5/31/17 at 3:17 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 3:17 am
Ok baws ... Opinions on what is best for fat loss and muscle gain/retention.
I try to do both because I've heard both at one time or another...
I try to do both because I've heard both at one time or another...
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Posted on 5/31/17 at 5:45 am to GeorgeTheGreek
When fasted incline walks are going to be the best at preserving muscle, that and weighted vest walks.
When non fasted, sprints are any other true form of HiiT are to be the best at preserving muscle while burning fat.
I have seen the studies on fasted cardio not burning more fat than any other type but I honestly believe the studies are flawed. Fasted walking works, period.
When non fasted, sprints are any other true form of HiiT are to be the best at preserving muscle while burning fat.
I have seen the studies on fasted cardio not burning more fat than any other type but I honestly believe the studies are flawed. Fasted walking works, period.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:14 am to lsu777
I typically run anything under 8 miles fasted. The key is keeping your HR low. So some days I sacrifice speed for efficiency.
Incline 5-10 degrees while walking @ 3.8-4.0 mph is great!
Incline 5-10 degrees while walking @ 3.8-4.0 mph is great!
Posted on 5/31/17 at 7:59 am to tke_swamprat
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Incline 5-10 degrees while walking @ 3.8-4.0 mph is great!
Jesus christ, my heart rate would be up over 190 if i did that.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:09 am to tke_swamprat
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Incline 5-10 degrees while walking @ 3.8-4.0 mph is great!
I begin and end my workout with this. It doesn't take 15 mins to get a good sweat.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:44 am to lsu777
Bruh really?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 8:55 am to tke_swamprat
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The key is keeping your HR low.
Why?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:34 am to GeorgeTheGreek
I always felt bad for Louisiana baws that the only descent place to do hills is the levee, bit the levee is still a good place to do hill routines.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:38 am to lsu777
Why is that?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 9:51 am to GeorgeTheGreek
For distance running, keeping the HR low, typically zone 2, allows you to burn fat as fuel instead of tapping into glycogen reserves. I've used some HR training programs for marathons and it's worked well.
So while doing most cardio, I like to keep my HR below 145/150.
Ben Greenfield has some good insight on his podcast with Rich Roll.
So while doing most cardio, I like to keep my HR below 145/150.
Ben Greenfield has some good insight on his podcast with Rich Roll.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 10:17 am
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:18 am to tke_swamprat
Bro, I don't do distance running. Don't want to look like a Nigerian Distance Runner.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:25 am to GeorgeTheGreek
But I'm sure the same concepts apply to most cardio in general. Aerobic vs anerobic. It's all
About becoming more efficient and using fat as fuel before tapping into glycogen.
About becoming more efficient and using fat as fuel before tapping into glycogen.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 10:48 am to jakedel12
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quote:The key is keeping your HR low. Why?
When running long miles, keeping your HR low allows you to utilize fat reserves as a fuel source. Therefore, you don't need reserves of glycogen built up from a recent meal. If you get your HR too high, you start burning energy faster than you can break down your energy stored in fat.
Not saying this is a better method for weight loss or not, since burning calories is burning calories. Runners tend to train a lot in this area so that they don't require full days worth of meals in a race/run. They supplement calories, but they've trained their body to use the calories built into their fat for the most part during the actual run.
This post was edited on 5/31/17 at 12:57 pm
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:42 am to tke_swamprat
Yea really. I don't run other than sprints though.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 11:47 am to GeorgeTheGreek
Why? Because while fasted sprinting will start to exhaust all glycogen storage and then will begin to utilize fat as the bodies primary fuel source, but due to the nature of sprinting yyour body will not be able to utilize body fat fast enough for its only fuel source in which it will turn to muscle to convert to glycogen. Walking will only exhaust glycogen stores and do the slower pace and slower heart rate, the body will be able to convert body fat fast enough to utilize it as your only fuel source.
Sprints ortrue HiiT in general when not fasted does the best job of exhausting glycogen stores fully. It also has the most epoc and sets you up in the perfect fat burning zone for morning walks.
Sprints ortrue HiiT in general when not fasted does the best job of exhausting glycogen stores fully. It also has the most epoc and sets you up in the perfect fat burning zone for morning walks.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:53 pm to lsu777
When I'm race training, I have one track day a week. Utilize different workouts depending on the length of the race. 16 x 200s with 60-90 secs rest is a great one. After number 8 it's a bitch with the lactic acid build up.
Posted on 5/31/17 at 12:56 pm to lsu777
All this is lost on me. So you're saying the best cardio for fat burning is fasted incline walking?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 1:24 pm to Swagga
yes or weighted vest walks. combined with hit. So for example a really good easy fat loss burning would be
Day 1-
Morning- Fasted walk
Afternoon-lift and short 10 min conditioning session with no carbs after workout
Day 2-
Morning-fasted walk
Afternoon-Double tabata on rower or airdyne-8 min workout; no carbs after workout
Day 3-
Morning-fasted walk
Afternoon-lift and short 10 min conditioning session with no carbs after workout
Day 4-similar to day 2
Day 5-similar to days 1&3
Day 6-similar to day 2&4
Day 7-off
If you are strucggling to burn body fat and you feel like your diet is pretty good and you are actually tracking everything then try this.
306 min of fasted walking a week. thats 60 min, 6 days a week. If you can do it on a treadmill on 15* incline at a speed of 2, great. If you can do it with a weighted vest, great. But even if those aren't available just walk, not jog, not run, just walk.
Try the above for 4 weeks taking before and after measurements at the naval and report back. What do you have to lose?
Day 1-
Morning- Fasted walk
Afternoon-lift and short 10 min conditioning session with no carbs after workout
Day 2-
Morning-fasted walk
Afternoon-Double tabata on rower or airdyne-8 min workout; no carbs after workout
Day 3-
Morning-fasted walk
Afternoon-lift and short 10 min conditioning session with no carbs after workout
Day 4-similar to day 2
Day 5-similar to days 1&3
Day 6-similar to day 2&4
Day 7-off
If you are strucggling to burn body fat and you feel like your diet is pretty good and you are actually tracking everything then try this.
306 min of fasted walking a week. thats 60 min, 6 days a week. If you can do it on a treadmill on 15* incline at a speed of 2, great. If you can do it with a weighted vest, great. But even if those aren't available just walk, not jog, not run, just walk.
Try the above for 4 weeks taking before and after measurements at the naval and report back. What do you have to lose?
Posted on 5/31/17 at 1:33 pm to lsu777
I'm doing Body Spartan and they recommend fasting walking in am. Weights in afternoon. Just like you stated above 777.
I typically do both in the am. Cardio after my workouts until the workouts become too long. Then I'll do cardio in the afternoon.
I typically do both in the am. Cardio after my workouts until the workouts become too long. Then I'll do cardio in the afternoon.
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