re: Protein 30 mins after a workout, yay or nay?

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Haha, like I have said before, nutrient timing is minuscule in the grand scheme of things.

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I was not trying to make a joke at you.. i do drink 2 scoops of protein immediately after i lift every single day.... i just forgot mine today and was making a joke

Sorry to say it thib, big scrub is right. Body does not know the difference between fruit or chocolate. Do some reaseach on if it fits your macros style diets. Only real difference is fruitose goes straight to replenish liver glycogen which is actually worse than just an insulin spike.

This is speaking from a weight loss stand point only.

From a health stand point sugar is sugar but preservatives in the chocolate will be much worse for your overall health. But still sugar is sugar,m.

Forks Over Knives

Read here. Let me know if you have heard of someone dieing from eating too much organic fruit.

The body benefits from the micronutrients and the fiber. A naturally occurring sugar (while not going to extremes with it) are not bad from you.

For weight loss maybe a different story, but for overall health

No thank you, you mentioned meat and cancer, no offense but you lost all credibility when it comes to healthy eating. You may know how to get people lean as evidenced by your own progress but no offense but you don't know jack shite about cancer, meat or health in general if you believe meat causes cancer.


Btw cancer is fueled by glucose, only glucose and without it the cancer cell dies. This is a fact that can not be disputed. So how would eating items that contain glucose help prevent cancer?

All of the studies that show this were paid for by the grain and big farm industry. The government wants you to eat like that because there is not enough meat for everyone to eat pounds of it.

And yea we gathered and feasted. But we only gathered berries and only enough to provide energy. We feasted nightly on meat during primal times or atleast every few days. But the majority of our calories were from fat and protein, not fruits and veggies.

And since when did doctors get an education on nutrition?

I agree that we can survive without carbohydrates. But I believe a diet high in natural unprocessed carbohydrates is healthier than one high in animal fat

Well kinda over reacted and shouldn't have questioned your credibility when it comes to health and I 100% agree that fruits and veggies are healthy due to micronutrients. But those studies that show meats have carcingions are either flawed by using low grade meat or flawed due to who paid for the study.

But when it comes to cancer you are way off. I'm sure you will pull the China study up, but its flaws like crazy. In general meat can not cause cancer as cancer lives off of glucose. Low grade meats with preservatives and other shite maybe can but pure grass fed beef, free range chicken and wild caught seafood can not, will not and is not possible to cause cancer, spread cancer etc

Cancer must have glucose to live, period. It's why you should go on a zero carb diet if you get cancer. Should also take dnp in low dose due to its ability to control insulin and glucose release at a cellular level and to perform this and other actions in the mitochondria. FDA would never allow dnp to be suggested, doesn't mean it doesn't work. Ada would never suggest a zero carb diet as there is no money in beating cancer that away. If you do anything please be extremely skeptical of any nutritional information any government agency or any general practitioner gives you that isn't into athletics, bodybuilding etc.

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In general meat can not cause cancer as cancer lives off of glucose. Low grade meats with preservatives and other shite maybe can but pure grass fed beef, free range chicken and wild caught seafood can not, will not and is not possible to cause cancer, spread cancer etc

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You still have not provided any study to show this. I do agree that grass fed beef, etc. are better. I never said I don't eat meat, I just stated that from plenty of studies meats do contain carcinogens.


Also, we can argue that other studies are gaining funding from the meat industry. That outlook goes both ways.

not trying to be a dick, but look it up. DO some research on how cancer survives, how it thrives and do your own conclusions. The studies you are using also use corolation to try and draw a conclusion. Corolation does not equal causation.

There's a new Documentary on Netflix called "What is Health", which draws the corellation between Meat and dairy, and cancer. All the meat we consume has some level of carcinogens in them.

Dairy also isn't good for you, because of the amount of hormones that are in it. 78% of the world is Lactose intolerant for a reason. Consuming dairy after infancy is not a natural thing, it's just something that the Dairy farmers have pushed on the American Public.