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Hex bar vs barbell for deadlifts

Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:33 pm
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:33 pm
I find myself using the hex bar more than the barbell for deadlifts (although I guess using a hex bar is almost more like a squat) since the hex is not used as much. Am I missing out on any additional benefits the barbell brings?
Posted by LSUweights
Baton Rouge
Member since Sep 2014
3543 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:36 pm to
Last Friday I was deadlifting next to a guy who was doing this
First time I saw it done
I can't do it, because I do my deadlifts (and squats) sumo
Posted by AZBadgerFan
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since May 2013
1515 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:52 pm to
T Nation had a good blog on the benefits of using a trap bar, the main one for me is less stress on the spine/lumbar region. I use a trap bar or dumbbells only for deadlifts. Do a Google search and you will find a ton of articles on trap bar deadlifts and their benefits.

Trap bar deadlifts

Posted by jennyjones
New Orleans Saints Fan
Member since Apr 2006
9298 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 1:57 pm to
quote:

Am I missing out on any additional benefits the barbell brings?


A standard barbell usually holds more plates....

My gyms hex bar maxes out at 4 plates. No bueno
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:02 pm to
I'm not sure of the difference, but trap bar is easier, thus I would rule barbell DLs to be more beneficial. You shouldn't touch a barbell with heavy weights unless you have your form down
Posted by Rossberg02
Member since Jun 2016
2591 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:10 pm to
Are you competing in powerlifting or Olympic lifting?

If no, then do whatever you feel your best at.

The differences are minuscule.



And if you really want to see some weird shite, look up Jefferson deadlifts.
Posted by nerd guy
Grapevine
Member since Dec 2008
12688 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 2:31 pm to
quote:

You shouldn't touch a barbell with heavy weights unless you have your form dow


Yea this is one of the reasons i've just stuck with the trap/hex.
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22151 posts
Posted on 5/26/17 at 8:48 pm to
quote:

Am I missing out on any additional benefits the barbell brings?



Yes, in my opinion a lot. You are missing a lot of back. I don't like hex. To me it's a squat in the hands without all the benefits of a squat. Too much quads in the lift instead of the entire posterior chain.

Posted by AZBadgerFan
Scottsdale, AZ
Member since May 2013
1515 posts
Posted on 6/6/17 at 2:20 pm to
It took me awhile but I found an article on hex bar deadlifts I read about a year ago. A trainer in CA preps college players for the NFL Combine and calls the hex bar deadlift the "perfect exercise" for developing total body strength and power/speed. I've trained at EXOS (formerly Athlete's Performance) and they are huge advocates of hex bar deadlifts. Good read.

Hex bar deadlifts

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Also known as the “trap-bar” deadlift, it gets its name from the hexagonal-shaped bar the lifter steps into, effectively allowing him to center himself over the weights (see above). Unlike a traditional straight-bar deadlift, a lift using the uniquely shaped hex-bar takes pressure off the lifter’s spine, lower back, and hamstrings. Also, because of the more balanced range of motion, out of every lift in the gym, it’s the one on which your body can lift the most weight. (Yes, even more than a squat.) Because the hex bar is so efficient, every rep utilizes 90% of skeletal muscle.

What’s more, these are the same muscles you rely on to run, jump high, and explode upward, fighting gravity.

When he ran the numbers, Flaherty found that the Force Number calculated from a one-rep max for the hex-bar deadlift yielded the exact same correlation as the ratio derived from force-plate treadmill numbers. He also discovered that the bigger your hex-bar deadlift, the bigger your Force Number. In other words: Congrats! You’re a better athlete. (For the record, Jamaican sprinter and reigning world’s fastest man, Usain Bolt, holds the highest Force Number ever recorded: 3.9.)

In 2014, Flaherty used the hex-bar deadlift to skyrocket Manziel’s combine numbers. Manziel arrived at Flaherty’s camp with a maximum hex lift of 530 pounds, a vertical leap of 27.5 inches, and a 5.09-second 40-yard dash. Weighing 201 pounds, his Force Number was 2.39. After two months of Flaherty’s deadlift program, Manziel had packed on eight pounds of muscle—and could lift 680 pounds for a Force Number of 3.2. Official combine stats recorded Manziel with a 31.5-inch vertical leap and a 4.68-second 40-yard dash, an improvement of about 0.4 second.

At the high school in California, hex bars are everywhere, scattered about like weapons in an armory. Later that afternoon I watch first as NFL hopeful Jake Brendel, a 6'4", 300-pound offensive lineman sporting a UCLA T-shirt and red Viking beard, steps into the center of one that’s stacked with so many weights, there’s no room for collars. He grips the handles, bends his knees, straightens his back, raises his chin. The bar elevates and then crashes down, over and over again, like a monstrous piston. I do the math in my mind: five 45-pounders on each side plus the bar itself over five reps means he’s lifted over a ton.
This post was edited on 6/6/17 at 2:23 pm
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66380 posts
Posted on 6/7/17 at 11:20 pm to
Everything you need to know about deadlifts...

Which deadlift is best for you?
Posted by Hu_Flung_Pu
Central, LA
Member since Jan 2013
22151 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 9:04 am to
*Sorry for the use of "you". Just shitty grammar and not directly talking about you in this reply.

That increase could be from he had shitty form to begin with and the hex bar is directly below the shoulders so when you lift up, it is a straight path. This is what we try to do with conventional/sumo but legs get in the way. Don't equate having more lbs on the bar to more exertion. Because the bar is further out from the body means that there is a longer lever arm to the weight thus increasing the force.

You have pressure in your lower back because you have shitty form. Hamstrings are part of the posterior chain and should be worked and is a target muscle in the deadlift. Hamstring strength correlates to faster sprint times.
Posted by Volt
Ascension Island, S Atlantic Ocean
Member since Nov 2009
2954 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 1:05 pm to
I've switched to hex bar deadlifts due to constant back pain from barbell DLs.
Actually stayed away from them completely for about 4-5 months until last week.
No back pain (anymore than usual that is)
Posted by LSUTigersVCURams
Member since Jul 2014
21940 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 3:51 pm to
Hex bar is GOAT for doing farmer carries. Doing a deadlift with a hex bar is not a real deadlift though IMHO.
Posted by GeorgeTheGreek
Sparta, Greece
Member since Mar 2008
66380 posts
Posted on 6/8/17 at 4:11 pm to
I do love me some HEX farmer walks.
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