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jcole4lsu
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Member since Nov 2007
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SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans

dear fricking god

beta opened this weekend. havent found any SC4 vets that really like it. this isnt an sequel, its a reboot. and while i dont have a problem with most of the revamped features (such as electric and water being integrated with roads), the game suffers from three major flaws.

1) always on connection to EA. there is no offline play even for private regions.

2) no god mode. no major terraforming tools, no money cheats to sandbox, all resources tied to the region and apparently to the global economy.

3) the entire city/region dynamic is terrible. your city size is TINY. and by tiny, i mean equivalent to 2km square i believe. any tile with a central business district looks absurd because it will go from CBD to open space nearly immediately.
further, you apparently only have one central "highway" for the region, and each city tile only gets a single connection to this highway.
to make matters worse, each city tile is spread out from one another, not integrated next to each other as in SC4.

the results; a region that looks like this:
Image: http://dl.dropbox.com/u/5012419/forum/regionview.jpg



Srbtiger06
USA Fan
Buga Nation
Member since Apr 2006
23086 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
Well shite. I was getting excited too.


Tom288
Florida Fan
Member since Apr 2009
18534 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
Well, at least my wallet can be happy. I was looking forward to this because I played it when I was younger. But in all honesty, there are a ton of huge games coming out this year, some soon in fact, and if this isn't gold I'm not gonna lose any sleep over it.


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schexyoung
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Deaf Valley
Member since May 2008
4661 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
I don't like #2 and #3, but I can deal with those.

The whole always on connection just shits on the user. What happens when the servers go down/shut off? Traveling without wifi?


LewDawg
Georgia Fan
Savannah, GA
Member since May 2009
54496 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
At least it will look good though.


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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
27845 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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The whole always on connection just shits on the user. What happens when the servers go down/shut off? Traveling without wifi?

better yet, what happens when the shut down the servers due to cost considerations.

this game is a DLC pusher as it is, so a user with all the bells and whistles will have at minimum $100 invested. just to rent for a couple of years?

frick i hate EA. ruined the best video game company around.


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sicboy
New Orleans Saints Fan
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
42335 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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The whole always on connection just shits on the user. What happens when the servers go down/shut off? Traveling without wifi?



Welcome to forever ago. Why game developers don't see this as an issue or just don't care is beyond me.


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taylork37
Ohio State Fan
The social pipeline
Member since Mar 2010
12047 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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no god mode.


Is this final, or is this have to do with only being the Beta?


SundayFunday
LSU Fan
Member since Sep 2011
5771 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
shite. I was getting excited too but this really kills its. frick EA, seriously. They ruin games.


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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
27845 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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Is this final, or is this have to do with only being the Beta?

final for SC2013 vanilla. may be added in some sort of DLC in the future, but it wont be included in this game per game dev Q&A session several months ago.

i understand they wanted to fundamentally change the game (hence going to glassbox for the simulation) to simplify the game and broaden its appeal, but that could be done within the SC4 style region play. i dont understand why they turned their backs on that part.


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GeauxColonels
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Tottenham Hotspur Fan
Member since Oct 2009
19240 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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Well shite. I was getting excited too.


jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
27845 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
the poll thats up on a(the) major SimCity fansite has the current breakdown:
Have pre ordered or WILL buy: 214
Will not buy at all or will not buy without major changes (mainly to the problems outlined in the OP): 313

id call that a massive failure on EAs part.


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Forkz
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2013
139 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
Is Sim City 4 worth picking up? I've never played a Sim City but it looks appealing.


baytiger
Valparaiso Fan
Boston
Member since Dec 2007
44836 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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1) always on connection to EA. there is no offline play even for private regions.
There was a reddit AMA with EA devs about this a month or so ago where there was a huge backlash. I'm surprised they're sticking to their guns.

eta: then again, I'm not really surprised, because frick ea
This post was edited on 1/28 at 3:06 pm


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jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
27845 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
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Is Sim City 4 worth picking up?

if you like sandboxing then absolutely. pick up the rush hour edition and then head over to simtropolis and pick up the network add on mod and check out their giant collection of user made mods/lots/etc

fairly amazing there is that much modding going on for a 10 yr old game


Teddy Ruxpin
LSU Fan
New Orleans, LA
Member since Oct 2006
22313 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
One of the few games I'd consider paying full price on because of how much time you can put into it. Looks like I'll keep playing Simcity 4 for now.


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Forkz
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2013
139 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
Word, thanks. Wish I would've grabbed it during the last steam sale


jcole4lsu
Virginia Fan
The Kwisatz Haderach
Member since Nov 2007
27845 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
oh and watch out, it can be a real resource hog especially on radeon cards


Forkz
LSU Fan
Member since Jan 2013
139 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
Sheeeeeeit, I have a radeon card


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brucevilanch
Alabama Fan
Fort Worth, Tejas
Member since May 2011
18331 posts

re: SimCity 2013 is an abortion to all SC4 fans
So, is this, like, a generic minecraft or something?


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