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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 10/8/17 at 5:20 pm to bluebarracuda
Posted on 10/8/17 at 5:20 pm to bluebarracuda
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The 5960x still shits on all of those in everything else
Not really anymore tbh.
7820X is faster by 20% single core and multi core average.
Ryzen 7 1800X is about 8% faster multi core.
The brand spanking new 8700K is 35% faster single core, 29% faster quad core, and only 8 points total behind for -1% in multi core versus your 5960X with 2 less cores and 4 less threads, 1%. It's $379 and Z370 boards are pretty well priced with plenty of options.
CPU landscape has changed a shite ton over the last couple of months and especially now that we have a well priced 6 core i7 8700K that can OC easily to 5GHz across all 6 cores, with the top chips hitting 5.1-5.2GHz. Those are insane clocks for 6c/12t.
I am going to have a ton of fun with this thing, instant delid into max clocks and fine tuning at least 5GHz and I bet I can get 5.1GHz stable, and that is well worth.
This post was edited on 10/8/17 at 5:36 pm
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Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:08 pm to UltimateHog
Ever seen that episode of South Park where ppl shove food up their asses and shtt comes out their mouth?
Do you shove food in your arse?
Do you shove food in your arse?
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:22 pm to LSU Coyote
Posted on 10/10/17 at 2:45 pm to LSU Coyote
Still a good show.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:06 am to UltimateHog
This may be a really dumb question but here it goes...
I need a bigger HD. I currently have a SSD with about 300GB of space, which is essentially just my OS and some other minor programs.
I have another HD with 1TB of space with everything else - games, pictures, programs, etc. That is about full.
I had read something about hard drives over 2TB not working with Windows? I have Windows 10.
Hypothetical: Can I purchase an 8 TB HD and partition it into 4 2TB drives on my PC?
TIA
I need a bigger HD. I currently have a SSD with about 300GB of space, which is essentially just my OS and some other minor programs.
I have another HD with 1TB of space with everything else - games, pictures, programs, etc. That is about full.
I had read something about hard drives over 2TB not working with Windows? I have Windows 10.
Hypothetical: Can I purchase an 8 TB HD and partition it into 4 2TB drives on my PC?
TIA
Posted on 10/11/17 at 11:21 am to HailToTheChiz
Just initialize the drive as GPT instead of MBR. It was an old problem for motherboards that don't support UEFI. No need to partition assuming your motherboard isn't more than 5 years old.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:07 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Oh excellent. So by going GPT route, it would have the entire 8TB hard drive?
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:38 pm to HailToTheChiz
Yep
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:45 pm to ILikeLSUToo
WTF have I walked in on, didn't he spend months saying he was going Ryzen 5 next? Now he wants a 8700k??? Weird...
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:47 pm to Dam Guide
Not quite, had said a few times awhile back I was waiting for CL to decide. Then mentioned I thought about building an itx build with a 1600 but no use for it.
Posted on 10/11/17 at 12:55 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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ILikeLSUToo
Posted on 10/11/17 at 1:14 pm to UltimateHog
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Then mentioned I thought about building an itx build with a 1600 but no use for it
There's always a use! My HTPC goes unused for months, but it's amazing to have when I need it
Posted on 10/11/17 at 2:36 pm to bluebarracuda
I still hope to eventually, I want to do an all white itx system in a white cube case. Ryzen has little options still overall and I think still just the 1 white board blah.
This post was edited on 10/11/17 at 2:37 pm
Posted on 10/11/17 at 8:48 pm to UltimateHog
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From what we know, the NVIDIA GeForce GTX 1070 Ti is targeted at the AMD Radeon RX Vega 56. It is designed to comfortably beat the Radeon RX Vega 56 (Price Check), with a slight 7.5% price premium.
TechARP - 1070 Ti
Posted on 10/11/17 at 9:00 pm to LSU Coyote
This rumor started a few months back and was shutdown. Still believe it is something else but with the new design it is extremely doable.
WCCFTech - Alleged Intel Slide Shows Upcoming Mobility Processors With AMD “Vega” Graphics Inside
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We have heard rumors that Intel and AMD might be working together to design a processor that utilizes RTG’s graphics technologies. While Intel had previously denied such reports, a slide has leaked out that says otherwise.
WCCFTech - Alleged Intel Slide Shows Upcoming Mobility Processors With AMD “Vega” Graphics Inside
Posted on 10/12/17 at 7:39 am to LSU Coyote
But can it be flashed to a 1080? 
Vega FineWine is starting to pop off in these new titles, even the 56 is beating the 1080 in Shadow of War and Forza 7 and will in Wolfenstein as well. I guess this new tech being used called AMD Rapid Packed Math is quite good, Wolfenstein is using it as well. Who knew driver maturity with a ton of new tech in a new arch mattered?
LINK
Vega FineWine is starting to pop off in these new titles, even the 56 is beating the 1080 in Shadow of War and Forza 7 and will in Wolfenstein as well. I guess this new tech being used called AMD Rapid Packed Math is quite good, Wolfenstein is using it as well. Who knew driver maturity with a ton of new tech in a new arch mattered?
LINK
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The results highlight both how memory-intensive the game is, and just how well AMD’s latest Vega GPU architecture can deal with that sort of title. For the most part the AMD RX Vega 64 fell behind the Nvidia’s GTX 1080 in our gaming benchmarks when we first reviewed it - even in the high-res textured world of the game's prequel, Shadow of Mordor.
But with Shadow of War the Vega 64 is consistently out in front of the GeForce card. The difference is just 9% at 1080p and 1440p, but it stretches to a hefty 21% when the resolution is pushed up to 4K. Interestingly, it’s at 4K where the AMD RX Vega 56 also pulls away from the GTX 1080.
It’s setting an intriguing precedent for Vega’s future performance, and that could well be compounded by the imminent launch of Wolfenstein 2, with its use of the proprietary AMD Rapid Packed Math tech. That classic AMD 'fine wine' approach to their graphics architecture delivering improved performance over time was consistently pointed to during the Vega launch, and it seems to be happening.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 9:52 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 8:02 am to UltimateHog
Western Digital Stuns Storage Industry with MAMR Breakthrough for Next-Gen HDDs
CODEX cracks Shadow of War's Denuvo DRM in a day
CODEX cracks Shadow of War's Denuvo DRM in a day
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 9:58 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 11:40 am to UltimateHog
I have been following this thread about the new Coffee Lake processors and I'm conflicted.
I was ready to purchase a couple weeks ago, and I was going to go with the Ryzen 5 1600 with a GTX1080.
Now that the new coffee lake i5s are out, I have a decision to make: Sacrifice some of the bells and whistles that I wanted to include this time that I didn't last time - fancy case etc. to make budget room for the new processor, or stick with my current Ryzen build and get what I want.
I know you guys really cant help with this decision, but in yall's opinion, would the new processor be a HUGE upgrade over the previous Ryzen 5 for me to swallow my pride and opt for performance over the aesthetics that I wanted?
ETA LINK to my original build.
I was ready to purchase a couple weeks ago, and I was going to go with the Ryzen 5 1600 with a GTX1080.
Now that the new coffee lake i5s are out, I have a decision to make: Sacrifice some of the bells and whistles that I wanted to include this time that I didn't last time - fancy case etc. to make budget room for the new processor, or stick with my current Ryzen build and get what I want.
I know you guys really cant help with this decision, but in yall's opinion, would the new processor be a HUGE upgrade over the previous Ryzen 5 for me to swallow my pride and opt for performance over the aesthetics that I wanted?
ETA LINK to my original build.
This post was edited on 10/12/17 at 11:44 am
Posted on 10/12/17 at 12:00 pm to SBvital
So basically 8600K build vs 1600 build?
The 8600K is $259, 1600 is $200. 8600K still OC's to 5GHz on pretty much any mobo with good air or aio cooler. It's quite a bit better in gaming, and yeah it has 6 threads versus 12 it really doesn't appear to make much of a difference.
8600K has a 42% higher single core speed, 43% quad core while the 1600 wins the multi core speed by 13% (overclock vs overclock that multi core drops to 4%).
Gaming performance also goes to the 8600K with the much higher single and quad core speeds, especially when OC'd.
On the AMD side you'd save about $100 between the CPU and Mobo to go 1600. The AM4 platform will support Zen+ next year as well as Zen 2 if you don't want to swap mobos again any time soon (Z370 will be Coffee Lake only).
The 8600K is $259, 1600 is $200. 8600K still OC's to 5GHz on pretty much any mobo with good air or aio cooler. It's quite a bit better in gaming, and yeah it has 6 threads versus 12 it really doesn't appear to make much of a difference.
8600K has a 42% higher single core speed, 43% quad core while the 1600 wins the multi core speed by 13% (overclock vs overclock that multi core drops to 4%).
Gaming performance also goes to the 8600K with the much higher single and quad core speeds, especially when OC'd.
On the AMD side you'd save about $100 between the CPU and Mobo to go 1600. The AM4 platform will support Zen+ next year as well as Zen 2 if you don't want to swap mobos again any time soon (Z370 will be Coffee Lake only).
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