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re: PC Discussion - Gaming, Performance and Enthusiasts
Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:32 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Posted on 4/22/16 at 11:32 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Yes, I have it set pretty high.
Although for some reason my screenshot shows it low, it's 3/4 lol.
Although for some reason my screenshot shows it low, it's 3/4 lol.
This post was edited on 4/22/16 at 11:33 pm
Posted on 4/23/16 at 4:05 pm to UltimateHog
I shipped my board to MSI today for the RMA.
According to MSI's RMA policy, all replacement motherboards are certified refurbished...
Although I've heard that MSI will ship completely brand new motherboards for RMAs sometimes.
Should I just buy a brand new motherboard instead of using a refurbished one?
EDIT: To clarify, my build is just over a month old with new components. It would really irk me if I had to use a certified refurbished part.
According to MSI's RMA policy, all replacement motherboards are certified refurbished...
Although I've heard that MSI will ship completely brand new motherboards for RMAs sometimes.
Should I just buy a brand new motherboard instead of using a refurbished one?
EDIT: To clarify, my build is just over a month old with new components. It would really irk me if I had to use a certified refurbished part.
This post was edited on 4/23/16 at 4:12 pm
Posted on 4/23/16 at 8:44 pm to boXerrumble
I would expect there to be no difference between the board you RMAed and the replacement, except that the replacement will work. Refurbished has a variety of sources. Pretty much every warranty policy stipulates that they can send refurbished. The only responsibility MSI has it giving you a fully functional replacement. A refurb can mean a customer return with nothing wrong, or one that needed a simple repair. Or perhaps a bad bios flash that they simply flashed back (or replaced the bios chipped). Given that Z170 is a current platform, I wouldn't expect your replacement board to be some dusted-off artifact they dig up from a pile of rejects.
I hope you put the socket cover on before you shipped though. Bent pins in the socket is the number-one generator of angry RMA experience rants.
I hope you put the socket cover on before you shipped though. Bent pins in the socket is the number-one generator of angry RMA experience rants.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 9:02 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Yep, I put the cover back onto the socket before I packed it.
MSI's policy on RMAs for motherboards says to only return the motherboard, not any of the cables, manuals, original box, etc..
MSI's 3 year warranty does still carry over though, so the warranty on the refurbished board I receive will be the same as on the original board.
MSI's policy on RMAs for motherboards says to only return the motherboard, not any of the cables, manuals, original box, etc..
MSI's 3 year warranty does still carry over though, so the warranty on the refurbished board I receive will be the same as on the original board.
Posted on 4/23/16 at 11:52 pm to boXerrumble
Yep, you'll have a working board by the end of the process. It's the process itself that's annoying. I like when companies cross-ship, but most only do it under special circumstances.
For example, and not to make you nervous or anything, when I RMAed a video card to MSI, the initial replacement they sent me was faulty out of the box. It was definitely a refurb because the card had been out of production for at least a year. But I e-mailed them and they agreed to cross-ship the next one (with a hold on my credit card). The next one (also a refurb) had no problems.
I had to RMA my $250 Seasonic power supply two months after I bought it because the fan failed. It's an easily replaceable part, but the minute you breach the PSU housing, you void your warranty. They knew the PSU was virtually brand new because I told them so. And I don't know if it influenced how my RMA was handled or not, but they sent me a brand new retail box PSU. I'd only sent them the unit itself, so I now have twice as many PSU cables. And another useless black felt bag.
For example, and not to make you nervous or anything, when I RMAed a video card to MSI, the initial replacement they sent me was faulty out of the box. It was definitely a refurb because the card had been out of production for at least a year. But I e-mailed them and they agreed to cross-ship the next one (with a hold on my credit card). The next one (also a refurb) had no problems.
I had to RMA my $250 Seasonic power supply two months after I bought it because the fan failed. It's an easily replaceable part, but the minute you breach the PSU housing, you void your warranty. They knew the PSU was virtually brand new because I told them so. And I don't know if it influenced how my RMA was handled or not, but they sent me a brand new retail box PSU. I'd only sent them the unit itself, so I now have twice as many PSU cables. And another useless black felt bag.
This post was edited on 4/24/16 at 11:08 am
Posted on 4/24/16 at 11:35 am to ILikeLSUToo
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For example, and not to make you nervous or anything, when I RMAed a video card to MSI, the initial replacement they sent me was faulty out of the box. It was definitely a refurb because the card had been out of production for at least a year. But I e-mailed them and they agreed to cross-ship the next one (with a hold on my credit card). The next one (also a refurb) had no problems.
Had this experience with MSI motherboard during the Z77 days. Had an issue with the DIMMs reading sticks correctly, sent in the RMA and MSI sent me an obvious refurb which had other issues like one of the DIMMs not reading at all. From there I sold on eBay and bought my first MPower board with no issues.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 4:31 pm to LSU Coyote
Yeah this MPower has been a champ, almost 3 years old now. My components are really aging. Got a Western Digital Caviar black going on 6 years. The 980s will be 2 years old on September, and I'll likely still have them.
Posted on 4/24/16 at 5:27 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I'm hoping I can get 2-3 years from the r9 380 before I upgrade.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:45 pm to boXerrumble
AMD Polaris 10 GPU Reportedly Offers Near 980 Ti Performance For 300 USD
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The big noise coming out of the event is that the switch to the 14nm FinFET fabrication process means the Polaris 10 GPU performs extremely close to the GeForce GTX 980 Ti, but for a drastically cheaper price point.
As we’ve detailed before, the process shrink means improvements to efficiency and transistor density, resulting in a bump in performance. That bump looks to be a hefty one as well, if the Polaris 10 is to match the GTX 980 Ti.
The Polaris 10 GPU is the successor to the 300-series, which AMD views as its mainstream range. This means Polaris 10 is not the next Fury and Fury X, but rather a 300 series successor, which is up to and including the R9 390X. That equates to the eventual Polaris 10 powered Radeon R9 490X being capable of GTX 980 Ti performance for a price tag in the region of $300-400.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:55 pm to UltimateHog
That would be cool. Rumors are that Polaris on 28nm will be in the PS4.5 and new XBone.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 8:57 pm to UltimateHog
UH has ur monitor come in? I haven't been in this thread during the weekdays.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:31 pm to LSU Coyote
Nah I canceled it, Amazon still doesn't stock it and the seller I ordered it from confirmed it's the EU model and needs an adapter for US sockets so canceled that one too.
May just get a Vive and stick with the monitors I have, still not 100% sure.
May just get a Vive and stick with the monitors I have, still not 100% sure.
Posted on 4/25/16 at 9:55 pm to UltimateHog
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May just get a Vive and stick with the monitors I have, still not 100% sure.
Yeah I have a Vive coming in hopefully at the end of June. I Pre-Ordered weeks after they started accepting. Should have just swallowed that pill at the launch of Pre-Orders knowing that I want my HL3 in VR.
Posted on 4/26/16 at 10:05 am to UltimateHog
I just don't see it. Everything I'm reading says they are targeting high end laptops and mainstream desktops. I don't see how that reaches 980 ti level. I suppose the one card that could reach that is a 490x.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 10:12 am
Posted on 4/26/16 at 7:26 pm to fouldeliverer
That wording doesn't mean much though, AMD considers all of their cards mainstream cards that aren't the Fury series, the Fury series is their enthusiast line.
We're going to see pretty good jumps in performance, so IMO, a 490X being close to a 980ti is very realistic. There are multiple benchmark leaks out already that back that up as well.
We're going to see pretty good jumps in performance, so IMO, a 490X being close to a 980ti is very realistic. There are multiple benchmark leaks out already that back that up as well.
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The AMD Polaris 10 GPU has a maximum TDP of 175W but cards will actually consume much less than that. The GPU was initially built to support HBM memory but AMD chose to go the GDDR5/X route since it offers a better value currently. We will get to see HBM on AMD GPUs when Vega launches but until then, only Fury series will have HBM support. The Polaris 10 GPU is said to have 3DMark Firestrike Ultra performance around 4000 points which is about what a Radeon R9 Fury X and GeForce GTX 980 Ti score. By 4000 points, we don’t mean exactly 4000 but it’s actually a bit less than that.
This post was edited on 4/26/16 at 7:40 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 2:23 pm to UltimateHog
really want to build a new pc right now, but have read it would be better to wait till the new hardware comes out later this year. worth the wait?
eta if it matters, I'll only be spending $600-$1000 on the new pc
eta if it matters, I'll only be spending $600-$1000 on the new pc
This post was edited on 4/27/16 at 2:28 pm
Posted on 4/27/16 at 6:30 pm to hawgfaninc
If you're spending the top end of your budget, then I'd wait. Otherwise, no idea.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 6:52 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Posted on 4/27/16 at 7:04 pm to UltimateHog
I could see a use for it if I had a dedicated computer room and a giant desk. I could then wall mount it. Otherwise, too frickin big.
Posted on 4/27/16 at 9:02 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Any idea how long I'll have to wait?
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