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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:24 pm
Posted by ThuperThumpin
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:24 pm
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This seems like such a strange move. There is no shortage of demand and it was profitable. I guess this will be considered a collectors item now.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:33 pm to
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This seems like such a strange move. There is no shortage of demand and it was profitable. I guess this will be considered a collectors item now.


It was a strange move to begin with. These kinds of system sell well briefly, and then they fade fast and end up at Bed, Bath and Beyond.

As a big Nintendo fan, I never got the draw of this, or the massive interest.



But as to the closing, this is only good news for the Switch. Nintendo HATES cannibalizing sales. Always have. This hopefully means that Switch VC news is near, and hopefully, all encompassing - NES, SNES, Gamecube, etc.

The Switch is way more versatile than the NES Classic, and now that i have one, I can't believe they ever released the Classic.

Release an NES colored/branded version of the Switch....that's a gold mine for this type of market.
Posted by Dr RC
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:37 pm to
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The Switch is way more versatile than the NES Classic, and now that i have one, I can't believe they ever released the Classic.


They possibly released it to shore up sagging WiiU sales or just to have a fail safe for revenue in case the Switch tanked right of the bat.

Killing it now could even be b/c of something weird like not wanting to overshoot their projections for the year causing issues w/their stock.

Anyway, like I said in the other thread on this, as soon as it became apparent how east they are to hack it was pretty damn obvious Nintendo was going to stop selling them.

Keeping the NES Classic alive would hurt potential sales of VC games on Switch, of an NES Classic 2, or SNES classic.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 2:43 pm
Posted by musick
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:43 pm to
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This hopefully means that Switch VC news is near, and hopefully, all encompassing - NES, SNES, Gamecube, etc.


I think we get VC announcement in June. Classic was probably a test gauge of VC to see demand of classics, and it was successful.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 2:44 pm to
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I think we get VC announcement in June. Classic was probably a test gauge of VC to see demand of classics, and it was successful.


I'll only give them June if they announce it at E3 and say "These Titles Available Right Now!"

And give us a big list.

If they go back to the 2-3/month of the Wii/Wii U - We're boned. That sheer amount of titles they have - it takes forever to get to the good stuff.
Posted by Brosef Stalin
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:06 pm to
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It was a strange move to begin with. These kinds of system sell well briefly, and then they fade fast and end up at Bed, Bath and Beyond.

I believe this was geared more towards casual gamers, or rather people who haven't played anything since the original NES. More hardcore gamers are gonna either use emulators or download these games from Nintendo's virtual store if they want to play them.
Posted by Freauxzen
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:22 pm to
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I believe this was geared more towards casual gamers, or rather people who haven't played anything since the original NES.


Exactly - it's a novelty item that fades fast.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:36 pm to
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As a big Nintendo fan, I never got the draw of this, or the massive interest.
I saw it has something that would sell to the gamer who doesn't game anymore...that was correct.

There was an article about it that just described my feelings to a tee about serving as an introduction or ad for the switch with that audience. Get their attention, become relevant with them again, and hey look at our new system

Also the switch couldn't make a holiday release and this was a really nice holiday seller, cheap to make, get some cash flow

They're selling the more expensive switch for which demand has been high, seems like a no brainer. Like you said

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These kinds of system sell well briefly, and then they fade fast and end up at Bed, Bath and Beyond.


It was a nice seller for a seasonal period in which they needed it, Nintendo was being talked about on the cusp of introducing or unveiling their new system
Posted by JasonMason
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Also the switch couldn't make a holiday release and this was a really nice holiday seller, cheap to make, get some cash flow

They're selling the more expensive switch for which demand has been high, seems like a no brainer. Like you said



I see all this, and yeah it makes some sense, but nes classic thing irks me. I had a WiiU. I got it pretty early in the life cycle. Took forever to get any games worth playing & it wasn't my only console. Nintendo finally came out with the promised Zelda game when the Swtich came out of course. I'm in the boat of feeling severely let down by the WiiU. Nintendo ticked me off.

When the NES Classic got revealed, my wife (who is not a gamer at all) was even talking about it, and that got me excited because I figured it was something we could enjoy together. Well nintendo botched the hell out of the release (knowing they had a huge demand for the thing). I'm not getting the switch because I didn't want to be in the same boat I was with the WiiU. I was going to maybe wait until later in the life cycle.

Then this news with the NES Classic getting discontinued hits, and I'm done with Nintendo for a while.
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:08 pm to
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Exactly - it's a novelty item that fades fast.



It's a novelty item that was flying off the shelves. It's insane that they stop production. The people they would make money off of with this WON'T cut into the Switch market. It just won't. People who clamor for old games who don't know the first thing about emulation or people who just think it's cool to have that little NES are buying this.

That thing can't be that complicated that they feel they would stretched thin trying to produce it and the switch.
Posted by DelU249
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:18 pm to
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It's insane that they stop production
sometimes it's not that simple. maybe it is for them, I just don't know what their production looks like

they should of had the tractor trailer full of chicken.

chicken on ice.

everyone google howard stern popeyes
Posted by ThuperThumpin
Member since Dec 2013
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:18 pm to
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It was a strange move to begin with. These kinds of system sell well briefly, and then they fade fast and end up at Bed, Bath and Beyond.


They could ve sold millions more specifically to the Bed Bath and Beyond crowd. Folks in their 40's that would impulse buy to play SMB for a few hours and never touch it again. They are not buying the Switch or trying to hack the Classic. I agree it is probably good news for the VC on Switch
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:47 pm to
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There was an article about it that just described my feelings to a tee about serving as an introduction or ad for the switch with that audience. Get their attention, become relevant with them again, and hey look at our new system

Also the switch couldn't make a holiday release and this was a really nice holiday seller, cheap to make, get some cash flow


A couple of good reasons that could make sense.
Posted by jrodLSUke
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:48 pm to
This is crazy. NEC Classics are still going for more than double retail on EBay. They can't keep them on shelves.

This is basically just some old rich Japanese dudes saying, 'we have enough money so frick the consumer".
Posted by Freauxzen
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Member since Feb 2006
37228 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 4:52 pm to
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It's a novelty item that was flying off the shelves. It's insane that they stop production.


It may be a dumb move, but it isn't insane. There are lots of reasons to stop selling it.

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The people they would make money off of with this WON'T cut into the Switch market. It just won't. People who clamor for old games who don't know the first thing about emulation or people who just think it's cool to have that little NES are buying this.


The Wii says hello. Not that the Wii was a focus on old games, but the Wii sold to a LARGE population of gamers who had 0 interest in a hardcore PS/Xbox console.

Maybe that's the play.

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That thing can't be that complicated that they feel they would stretched thin trying to produce it and the switch.




Well, to look at it negatively. Let's say they do open the VC with like 4 NES titles. Even Nintendo/Game fans who do have a Switch looking at that would say "I can either buy them on my Switch for 5 bucks a pop, or buy this machine that has a bunch of them at once."

The Switch seems to have a chance to catch on fast (it isn't more expensive than the Wii at release), and maybe they see the Classic as an roadblock to that.

That isn't insane, it's just a business gamble. It's tough to judge the decision now. If the Switch doesn't take off, and there's a hole in Nintendo's profits, then ok, bad move.


Or maybe this is ALL about the hacking, which wouldn't be surprising.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 4:56 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 5:58 pm to
Polygon just put our an article, theorizing on reasons Nintendo might have done this:

-They hate piracy with a passion and that thing was hacked to crap.

-Didn't make any money, which would be surprising since it's hard to imagine that thing being expensive to make. They hypothesized it could be a licensing issue.

-Something new might be coming.

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Posted by sgallo3
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:06 pm to
they saw how easy it could be hacked and realized they would lose out on selling all their old titles.
Posted by sicboy
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Member since Nov 2010
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:09 pm to
Well it's not Nintendo would be the first to ever have to deal with this. And if people are willing to shell out $60 for something they could download for free on a PC, profit.

I'd bet it's the licensing thing, making it not worth their time.
Posted by DelU249
Austria
Member since Dec 2010
77625 posts
Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:32 pm to
Way over thinking it I think

Why divert ad resources away from your $300 system selling out to your $40 system selling out

Shipping space, production resources, etc. the mini was an easy to put together filler. I can't just assume they can just do both and not have one take away from the other i don't care how much money they have.
This post was edited on 4/13/17 at 6:33 pm
Posted by sicboy
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Posted on 4/13/17 at 6:55 pm to
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Shipping space, production resources, etc.


Which they have never had an issue with on their handhelds, much more sophisticated and pricey hardware.
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