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Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:49 am to
Posted by Mystery
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:49 am to
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Will do.

On a related note, I only got that PUG to level 18, but even at this level; I'm reminded each time I enter a dungeon why I usually play a tank.

It blows my mind how many people don't understand how to keep hate on more than one mob at a time


I will say this, as a glad, it can be really hard to hold aggro of an entire group until lv 22 (provoke). Depending on how much the healer spams heals. Then it gets easy at 26 (with 3rd part of the eminity combo).

This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 11:50 am
Posted by Muppet
Member since Aug 2007
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:49 am to
I wish there were any kind of news regarding when the new character bans will be lifted. I'm on Ultros and a friend who just bought the game can't play with me. I'll create an entirely new character if it doesn't happen soon, but that gives me a headache.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:28 pm to
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It blows my mind how many people don't understand how to keep hate on more than one mob at a time.



As a tank, it blows my mind how often people do not assist off of me. It's a two way street.
Posted by StinkBait72
Member since Nov 2011
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:34 pm to
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I will say this, as a glad, it can be really hard to hold aggro of an entire group until lv 22 (provoke). Depending on how much the healer spams heals. Then it gets easy at 26 (with 3rd part of the eminity combo).


Make sure to move a few of the target icons to a spare bar (I just use 1, 2, and 3). If the dps is can count to 3 there shouldn't be a problem, but with a CNJ or WHM spamming medica (group heal)it is impossible to hold agro from the extra mobs even at lvl 35. Few healers realize this in an emergency heal that should only be used on the rare occasion the party takes an AOE. As a CNJ I always made the tank the priority and single target healed, even when the ignorant archer pulls the #2 mob from the group. Sometimes I would have time to throw him a heal, others he would take a dirtnap. This gets much messier when a mob breaks away from the pack and Medica is used. Now instead of the tank and dps fighting over agro the healer is being chased around the room by the entire pack.

For tanking, open up with (2) flashes then progress through a combo on the #1 target. By this point you can start rotating through the other two mobs and use provoke or combos to keep them on you. If you still ave problems due to healer agro or a dps is just doing as they please, you can always spam flash. The only draw back to that is the entire run will take longer now that you have to wait for mana regen between packs. Tanking and healing are more about the rest of your party playing together and less about the individual class.

I changed from CNJ to GLD in early access since tanking is just more involved. You have to work to keep agro in this game, but you are still always going to be heavily dependent on the rest of your group.

ETA: If you have a gaming mouse, set your target icons to the spare buttons. This helps when a boss summons adds mid fight and you need to create a kill order for your group.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 12:38 pm
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:34 pm to
Yes, but you can expect people playing DPS to be somewhat retarded.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21284 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 12:36 pm to
Oh hey look at us. We are cool cuz we play with people on NA servers fricking frick my life.
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:00 pm to
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We are cool cuz we play with people on NA servers fricking frick my life.


Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 9/5/13 at 1:48 pm to
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Make sure to move a few of the target icons to a spare bar (I just use 1, 2, and 3). If the dps is can count to 3 there shouldn't be a problem, but with a CNJ or WHM spamming medica (group heal)it is impossible to hold agro from the extra mobs even at lvl 35. Few healers realize this in an emergency heal that should only be used on the rare occasion the party takes an AOE. As a CNJ I always made the tank the priority and single target healed, even when the ignorant archer pulls the #2 mob from the group. Sometimes I would have time to throw him a heal, others he would take a dirtnap. This gets much messier when a mob breaks away from the pack and Medica is used. Now instead of the tank and dps fighting over agro the healer is being chased around the room by the entire pack.

For tanking, open up with (2) flashes then progress through a combo on the #1 target. By this point you can start rotating through the other two mobs and use provoke or combos to keep them on you. If you still ave problems due to healer agro or a dps is just doing as they please, you can always spam flash. The only draw back to that is the entire run will take longer now that you have to wait for mana regen between packs. Tanking and healing are more about the rest of your party playing together and less about the individual class.

I changed from CNJ to GLD in early access since tanking is just more involved. You have to work to keep agro in this game, but you are still always going to be heavily dependent on the rest of your group.

ETA: If you have a gaming mouse, set your target icons to the spare buttons. This helps when a boss summons adds mid fight and you need to create a kill order for your group.


I have no problems holding aggro, was just trying to let it be known that it is much more involved in this game than others.

I personally start off with 1 flash then rotate the 3 combo chain. With a flash in between each combo if the group is 3 or more. Holds them easy enough. Don't really use provoke, since it is a line cutter and not a builder. Just save it in case something nasty jumps on the healer.

I have my targets set of course, no problem with that.
This post was edited on 9/5/13 at 1:49 pm
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
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Posted on 9/5/13 at 11:56 pm to
I've been checking throughout the day Baddest. No signs of you.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77537 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 7:44 am to
Baby Ifrit was fun. Makes me slightly concerned about Ifrit hard, though. Wasn't in my comfort zone, and apparently there are now 6 nails you have to take down.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14507 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 12:30 pm to
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Wasn't in my comfort zone, and apparently there are now 6 nails you have to take down.


Posted by LewDawg
Member since May 2009
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Posted on 9/6/13 at 1:09 pm to
Posted by Mystery
Member since Jan 2009
9003 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 1:17 pm to
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PS4 Features for FFXIV


Can't wait
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77537 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 2:13 pm to
The cracks seemed harder to see. Everything shimmers in there so I kept thinking I saw them popping up.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21284 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 2:56 pm to
Oh hey a NA server is open!!!!!

Oh no it's not Hyperion....


Cancelled my subscription.
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77537 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 3:03 pm to
:sniff:
Posted by Mear
Member since Oct 2010
4836 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 3:14 pm to
Sorry this was your first MMO experience, not having ques/ afk tiners for servers is pretty bad.
Posted by oauron
Birmingham, AL
Member since Sep 2011
14507 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 3:27 pm to
Remote play will my big for me. I can MMO on the couch without using the TV.
Posted by Blitzed
Member since Oct 2009
21284 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 3:30 pm to
J/K poker face was on the radio and had me in the mood.

What city do y'all frequent the most?
Posted by sicboy
Because Awesome
Member since Nov 2010
77537 posts
Posted on 9/6/13 at 3:47 pm to
Uldah is the typical hangout spot but with all of the running around I've been doing, I'm all over the place.
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