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re: Building my first PC - Technical Issue UPDATE page 2
Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:40 am to Charleaux
Posted on 1/18/13 at 7:40 am to Charleaux
Try to power it up with 1 ram stick only. Try it on each of the ram slot one at a time and see if your computer will post.
I'm sure you did but just in case, you did install the stadoffs under the motherboard right?
I'm sure you did but just in case, you did install the stadoffs under the motherboard right?
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Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:39 am to The Sockster
All my fans do start running but no beeps. If the PSU was the problem wouldn't the fans NOT run?
Sockster, I did not install the standoffs, the newegg tutorial I followed recommended to start with an eternal build before everything in the case and it is my understanding that the standoffs are used to attach the mobo to the case, correct?
Sockster, I did not install the standoffs, the newegg tutorial I followed recommended to start with an eternal build before everything in the case and it is my understanding that the standoffs are used to attach the mobo to the case, correct?
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:41 am to The Sockster
OK. Let's go back to the basics.
Your motherboard has two connections for power. Are you sure you've plugged into both connections.
You say you get a splash screen then lose signal? Then your computer isn't passing POST (power on self test). The RAM suggestion above is a good one. Make sure the RAM is inserted into the correct slots. There are 4 slots on your card. If you don't put the RAM in the correct slots you won't pass POST. You should be using slots DDR3_2 and DDR3_4 per the manual.
Whenever you have a POST problem you need to take out components and start with a bare bones system. Put one RAM module into DDR3_2. Disconnect the optical drive. Get the computer to POST then add components until you find the problem.
You need to list the exact model number of your GPU. XFX has about a dozen different models of that GPU.
Good luck.
Your motherboard has two connections for power. Are you sure you've plugged into both connections.
You say you get a splash screen then lose signal? Then your computer isn't passing POST (power on self test). The RAM suggestion above is a good one. Make sure the RAM is inserted into the correct slots. There are 4 slots on your card. If you don't put the RAM in the correct slots you won't pass POST. You should be using slots DDR3_2 and DDR3_4 per the manual.
Whenever you have a POST problem you need to take out components and start with a bare bones system. Put one RAM module into DDR3_2. Disconnect the optical drive. Get the computer to POST then add components until you find the problem.
You need to list the exact model number of your GPU. XFX has about a dozen different models of that GPU.
Good luck.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 8:49 am
Posted on 1/18/13 at 8:52 am to Charleaux
Yes the standoffs are used to attach the motherboard to the case. So you are still doing the external build...good thinking!
The PSU might be the problem. One of my friend's had a build that wouldn't power the system, just the fans, and when we tried one of my back up PSU the system was able to post. However, before you want to assume that it is the PSU try the testing one ram stick at a time on each different slot and see if you are able to post.
The PSU might be the problem. One of my friend's had a build that wouldn't power the system, just the fans, and when we tried one of my back up PSU the system was able to post. However, before you want to assume that it is the PSU try the testing one ram stick at a time on each different slot and see if you are able to post.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 9:01 am to Charleaux
quote:
If the PSU was the problem wouldn't the fans NOT run?
absolutely not.
many times a PSU is too weak or faulty just to the point of not providing the CPU with the power needed to boot. in these cases, the fans will run and everything appears fine.
people usually think its a problem with their monitor in that type of situation.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:09 am to jcole4lsu
In the case of no video or beeps, it could just as easily be the motherboard, or perhaps even more likely in my experience. I'd say, out of all the "no video" problems I fixed:
50% were bad motherboard
20% were bad PSU
15% were bad RAM
10% were bad video card
And the remaining 5 percent were something else, like monitor, mobo needing bios update for Ivy Bridge, weird jumpers like in the case of those old ECS socket 478 boards, etc.
EDIT: However, given the newegg reviews of the PSU in question, I wouldn't be surprised.
And the mobo you have is not good, either. Come by next weekend and I'll definitely be able to tell you what's wrong with it before you leave my house.
50% were bad motherboard
20% were bad PSU
15% were bad RAM
10% were bad video card
And the remaining 5 percent were something else, like monitor, mobo needing bios update for Ivy Bridge, weird jumpers like in the case of those old ECS socket 478 boards, etc.
EDIT: However, given the newegg reviews of the PSU in question, I wouldn't be surprised.
And the mobo you have is not good, either. Come by next weekend and I'll definitely be able to tell you what's wrong with it before you leave my house.
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 10:20 am
Posted on 1/18/13 at 10:14 am to ILikeLSUToo
yeah he did buy a shittastic board. have we even determined everything is plugged in correctly?
OP take and post pics of the external build - specifically so we can see the connections
OP take and post pics of the external build - specifically so we can see the connections
Posted on 1/18/13 at 11:11 am to jcole4lsu
quote:
have we even determined everything is plugged in correctly?
Those were my questions posted this morning. There has been no response from the OP.
Posted on 1/18/13 at 12:06 pm to VABuckeye
Sorry I am at work and I can't be on TD constantly. I am pretty sure everything is plugged in properly. I've reconnected everything multiple times to no avail.
And I didn't realize I was buying such a shitty mobo and PSU. Another poster recommended these parts originally for a budget build.
I'm just going to take up the offer from ILikeLSUtoo. Hopefully once somebody figures out what's wrong, it will be an easy fix. I'm ready to start gaming with you guys!
And I didn't realize I was buying such a shitty mobo and PSU. Another poster recommended these parts originally for a budget build.
I'm just going to take up the offer from ILikeLSUtoo. Hopefully once somebody figures out what's wrong, it will be an easy fix. I'm ready to start gaming with you guys!
This post was edited on 1/18/13 at 12:08 pm
Posted on 1/18/13 at 1:57 pm to Charleaux
Please don't take my post as criticism. I understand that you can't always reply on the fly. I hope the issue is resolved quickly. Let us know what caused the problem. 
Posted on 1/26/13 at 7:27 pm to VABuckeye
Charleaux came by this afternoon. Here's what we did:
I put his mobo/cpu, RAM, vid card, and PSU in his case. Connected everything, except I noticed that the PSU only had one 6-pin PCIe connector. In his initial build, he only plugged in the one connector to his XFX 7850 and left the other one alone. This was the one and only problem.
But, I'm stupid, and did not realize that the DVI connection to my spare monitor was loose and not completely screwed in. So we wasted a good bit of time swapping parts and trying to figure out why in the hell nothing would produce video. Wasn't until my own computer wouldn't display video that I actually had the bright idea to check the damn connection.
The PSU works fine, but it's a pretty cheap unstable PSU with really only 450w continuous output, and the 4-pin atx cable is too short. It's a PSU better suited for a low-end microATX build and not a gaming computer. So instead of getting extension cables and a 6-pin adapter and praying the Coolmax can handle the load when he starts gaming later, I sold him a spare raidmax hybrid 630w from a PC I'm parting out, built entire system, did some minor cable management (the raidmax is modular), then we installed windows and all drivers. He left with a complete system, ready to start gaming.
I put his mobo/cpu, RAM, vid card, and PSU in his case. Connected everything, except I noticed that the PSU only had one 6-pin PCIe connector. In his initial build, he only plugged in the one connector to his XFX 7850 and left the other one alone. This was the one and only problem.
But, I'm stupid, and did not realize that the DVI connection to my spare monitor was loose and not completely screwed in. So we wasted a good bit of time swapping parts and trying to figure out why in the hell nothing would produce video. Wasn't until my own computer wouldn't display video that I actually had the bright idea to check the damn connection.
The PSU works fine, but it's a pretty cheap unstable PSU with really only 450w continuous output, and the 4-pin atx cable is too short. It's a PSU better suited for a low-end microATX build and not a gaming computer. So instead of getting extension cables and a 6-pin adapter and praying the Coolmax can handle the load when he starts gaming later, I sold him a spare raidmax hybrid 630w from a PC I'm parting out, built entire system, did some minor cable management (the raidmax is modular), then we installed windows and all drivers. He left with a complete system, ready to start gaming.
This post was edited on 1/26/13 at 7:31 pm
Posted on 1/26/13 at 7:42 pm to ILikeLSUToo
awesome.
Posted on 1/26/13 at 8:39 pm to ILikeLSUToo
damn strong work my friend
Posted on 1/26/13 at 9:11 pm to ILikeLSUToo
quote:
Connected everything, except I noticed that the PSU only had one 6-pin PCIe connector. In his initial build, he only plugged in the one connector to his XFX 7850 and left the other one alone. This was the one and only problem.
It's almost always something simple.
Posted on 1/26/13 at 10:23 pm to ILikeLSUToo
First post from the new build! 
Since this was my first build and never looked at a graphics card before, I had no idea that both 6-pin connectors had to be used. I am glad I wasn't completely retarded in what I had accomplished.
Major props to ILikeLSUToo for taking the time to help me out! If other newbies like me need help, he's the man!
Since this was my first build and never looked at a graphics card before, I had no idea that both 6-pin connectors had to be used. I am glad I wasn't completely retarded in what I had accomplished.
Major props to ILikeLSUToo for taking the time to help me out! If other newbies like me need help, he's the man!
Posted on 1/26/13 at 10:26 pm to Charleaux
Gratz and welcome to the club, a lot of very good and knowledgeable people on this board.
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