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re: Build the Best Gaming PC Your Money Can Buy: A Detailed Guide (Updated Sep 2014)
Posted on 9/29/13 at 3:20 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Posted on 9/29/13 at 3:20 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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And by the rules of the Internet, somebody has down-voted it already.
They should be banned
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Posted on 9/29/13 at 3:25 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Bookmarked and deserves a sticky. Thread of the year 
Posted on 9/29/13 at 4:31 pm to ILikeLSUToo
bookmarked
Posted on 9/29/13 at 6:02 pm to ILikeLSUToo
I found a Radeon 7970 new in box for $225 it has four HDMI and two DVI should I jump on it?
Posted on 9/29/13 at 6:06 pm to Napoleon
Link it
Posted on 9/29/13 at 6:28 pm to Napoleon
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I found a Radeon 7970 new in box for $225 it has four HDMI and two DVI should I jump on it?
I assume you mean 4 Display Ports (or Mini-DP)? Never seen a 7970 with 4 HDMI ports.
As far as I know, there's an ASUS card and perhaps an MSI with 4 Display Ports, but please link me to confirm.
Either way, $225 is a great price and there aren't too many scenarios in which I'd advise against getting a 7970 at that price. Just need to confirm it's not some shitty scaled down PCB with a cooler that barely keeps it below 90.
EDIT: Just checked PCPartPicker, and there are now 8 7970s under $300, the cheapest being an ASUS for $268 that has two DVI ports and 4 display ports -- Is that the one you're talking about? It's a 3-slot card.
This post was edited on 9/29/13 at 6:33 pm
Posted on 9/29/13 at 6:33 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Or some crappy card mislabeled as a ,7970 
Posted on 9/29/13 at 8:02 pm to ILikeLSUToo
Bookmarked. I've spent the better part of an hour reading this. Best post ever. 
Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:09 am to ILikeLSUToo
Kudos to you, good sir.
The $1000 build is exactly what I am looking to start collecting parts for in a few weeks. Perfect timing for my post-defense/graduation self-present.
The only thing I'm slightly confused on is the difference between Z77 and Z78 sockets.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 9:16 am to HobbsTheTiger
Z87 is the new installment over Z77. Z87 just came out this past summer while z77 came out with ivy
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:53 am to bluebarracuda
would u like to marry my sister?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 10:54 am to Antebodi
pics?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 11:31 am to HobbsTheTiger
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The only thing I'm slightly confused on is the difference between Z77 and Z78 sockets.
Z77 and Z87 are chipsets -- Z77 is a chipset that uses socket 1155, and as blue said it's the older platform. Z87 is a socket 1150 chipset, which was released in June this year. The socket dictates the type of CPU you'll be able to use, while the chipset dictates many of the features you'll be able to use with the motherboard, such as overclocking, SLI/crossfire, and number of USB 3.0 and PCIe 6gbps ports. The only real difference between Z87 and Z77 is the number of native SATA 6Gbps ports. Z77 has 2, and the Z87 has 6. SSDs are the only drives that can take advantage of the extra bandwidth vs SATA 3Gbps, so it's not that important unless you are planning to use more than 2 SSDs.
At the $1,000 budget mark, if you're deciding between Z77 and Z87, you are essentially deciding between the 3570k (Z77/1155) and the 4670k (Z87/1150). It looks like the price is the same for both CPUs online (if bought new), according to PCPartPicker. The 3570k is a bit overpriced at $220, but since it's a discontinued chip, you might have better luck getting it used on eBay or a forum.
The Haswell is about 5% faster than the Ivy Bridge, clock for clock, and in gaming there's probably no difference at all.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 1:28 pm to ILikeLSUToo
This was exactly my question. It seemed backwards the 1150 is newer than 1155.
I've got a Microcenter nearby, so the CPU price should be better. I had my eye on getting the 3570k, but 4670k looks just as good pricewise($189 vs. $199) with perhaps some additional heat output. I'll have to do some research on any slight overclocking potential between the two.
I really liked the case suggestion, then I saw the larger define R4. I'm sold on that case.
LINK
Did I miss any discussion of the new closed loop watercooling devices available? Is this something a first time builder should stay away from?
I've got a Microcenter nearby, so the CPU price should be better. I had my eye on getting the 3570k, but 4670k looks just as good pricewise($189 vs. $199) with perhaps some additional heat output. I'll have to do some research on any slight overclocking potential between the two.
I really liked the case suggestion, then I saw the larger define R4. I'm sold on that case.
LINK
Did I miss any discussion of the new closed loop watercooling devices available? Is this something a first time builder should stay away from?
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:06 pm to HobbsTheTiger
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I've got a Microcenter nearby, so the CPU price should be better. I had my eye on getting the 3570k, but 4670k looks just as good pricewise($189 vs. $199) with perhaps some additional heat output. I'll have to do some research on any slight overclocking potential between the two.
Ivy bridge will OC better, but you will see better performance from haswell clock for clock.
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I really liked the case suggestion, then I saw the larger define R4. I'm sold on that case.
Excellent case choice. I'd also recommend the fractal arc midi r2 as well since it's cheaper and better fitting for all-in-one water coolers (and watercooling in general)
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:31 pm to bluebarracuda
Yeah, the Fractal R2 was my case pick for the $1000 budget, but there are certainly much nicer cases out there if you have the extra funds.
I did not discuss closed loop coolers in the guide, partly because the Hyper 212 was an easy cooler to squeeze into pretty much every budget level. Also, I don't have a ton of experience with them. The only one I've owned was an Antec Kuhler briefly, and I didn't even overclock anything with it. I've always been a custom loop user, before the kits or closed loop options ever existed. The closed loop/all-in-ones are actually pretty easy to deal with, so I'd say they are "noob-friendly." They don't require maintenance like traditional water cooling, and everything is sealed and connected already. In fact, the Antec Kuhler I had was easier to install than a Hyper 212.
I did not discuss closed loop coolers in the guide, partly because the Hyper 212 was an easy cooler to squeeze into pretty much every budget level. Also, I don't have a ton of experience with them. The only one I've owned was an Antec Kuhler briefly, and I didn't even overclock anything with it. I've always been a custom loop user, before the kits or closed loop options ever existed. The closed loop/all-in-ones are actually pretty easy to deal with, so I'd say they are "noob-friendly." They don't require maintenance like traditional water cooling, and everything is sealed and connected already. In fact, the Antec Kuhler I had was easier to install than a Hyper 212.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:32 pm to ILikeLSUToo
holy shite man, you are a man for others
good work
good work
This post was edited on 9/30/13 at 3:33 pm
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:40 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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The closed loop/all-in-ones are actually pretty easy to deal with, so I'd say they are "noob-friendly." They don't require maintenance like traditional water cooling, and everything is sealed and connected already. In fact, the Antec Kuhler I had was easier to install than a Hyper 212.
I've had the H80 and H220, and I can concur that they are far easier to install than a heatsink cooler.
Posted on 9/30/13 at 3:43 pm to ILikeLSUToo
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he Antec Kuhler I had was easier to install than a Hyper 212.
that 212 bracket
Posted on 10/1/13 at 10:23 am to Mr Gardoki
I've been stickied! 
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