re: Why Is Genghis Grill A Socially Acceptable Name For A Restaurant???

Fancy, eh. Guess they use real bone China.

Adolph's Oven Made Pizzas seems like a concept ready to take off.

Akinori, the sumo wrestler is all I have.

agree, not enough cambodians in power to make pol pot a household name that all kids study. It's just fascinating how much we hear about the holocaust and there have been so many ruthless dictators leading genocides all over the world but when the concept is brought up the holocaust is probably the most well known.

Also, there are no pictures or films documenting those atrocities. One reason Hitler will never be forgiven, not the only, but certainly the biggest reason.

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Because so much time has passed, and all those affected by the Mongol horde, not to mention those who would have any real memory of it, are long long turned to bones.

Dan Carlin addressed just this fact in Wrath of the Khans.

In hundreds of years Hitler and the Nazis (and Stalin and the Soviets) may be treated in the same light. Fascinating to study and people won't get all butthurt if you admire aspects of their militarism.

shite, people wear shirts with Mao and Stalin on them now and they made Old Adolph look bush league on genocide.

Che Guevara was a mass murdering little racist and they don't have a problem with him.





Maybe it's the fact of who he killed.

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I love DC, but I disagree with him a little bit, at least on Hitler.

Two reasons:
1. Hitler lost. Winners write the history and all that. I don't see too many people who speak well of, say, Brutus (even though what Brutus did was quite arguably a noble and brave act). Also, because he lost, he was not able to consolidate his gains and solidify his legacy. The Khans were able to consolidate and spread over generations and eventually wrote their own narrative; Hitler's will always be defined by what he lost and his story will always be told by those to whom he lost.

2. Deviation from the norms of the time. What Ghengis did wasn't all that far off from what every other society on the planet would do at the time given similar circumstances and capabilities at their disposal. I mean, does anyone think European Christian armies or MENA Arab Muslim armies wouldn't have done the same to each other if they could have during the same period? Also, probably the biggest victim of the Khans - the Chinese - were, themselves, absolutely brutal as hell during the same period towards their enemies.

I am not sure about Stalin; while he won and was able to consolidate his legacy gains, popular sentiment has been growing less kind towards him over time.

I think an interesting one will be FDR. I think, in the long run (hundreds of years down the line), history will be less and less kind to him.

Timing. In 500 years you won't be able to swing a cat without hitting a Hitler bakery.

because that shite happened 800 years ago.


this isn't hard

I guess it technically is a Mongolian place, but I never really considered it Mongolian. Just decent cheap stir fry.