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Restaurants that serve Swai instead of Catfish

Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:21 pm
Posted by HubbaBubba
F_uck Joe Biden, TX
Member since Oct 2010
45681 posts
Posted on 4/8/15 at 11:21 pm
Went to Shreveport for Easter to see my 80 year old parents. On the way, I was going to stop at David Beard's Catfish Village in Waskom and take a meal to my folks.

My wife got online and read some bad reviews, including that they serve Swai instead of Catfish. So I called them because (A) I need to make sure they fry the fish separated from the oil used to fry shellfish (allergies by my Mom) and (B) are the fish Swai or Catfish. I don't kn0wingly eat Swai.

They confirmed that the filets are Swai but the whole fish are catfish. So we called around to a half dozen other shops. Some were Swai, some were catfish, but they combined the oil with shellfish oil.

Finally found Jan's River Restaurant in west Shreveport had American farm-raised catfish and kept the oils separated. It was really a good meal and the folks were happy, but I never knew how hard it was to find places that separate the oil and also don't serve Swai.
Posted by lsuguru
Lake Charles
Member since Aug 2007
1782 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 8:38 am to
Swai, is disgusting. They try and serve this shite offshore every now and then. I tried it once before I googled it. Its basically a river fish from third world asian countries like Vietnam, Thailand, Laos, and Cambodia.

I'll pay a little more for something that doesn't come from the shite waters of Asia
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:01 am to
Isn't Basa becoming a popular replacement too?
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:06 am to
I'd rather have wild caught local catfish to the pond-raised stuff any day.
Posted by LSUsmartass
Scompton
Member since Sep 2004
82361 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:06 am to
How can you tell the difference?
Posted by Mo Jeaux
Member since Aug 2008
58496 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:08 am to
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How can you tell the difference?


I'd be willing to bet that most people couldn't.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:09 am to
I read that people preferred Basa over farm raised catfish 3:1 in a blind taste test
Posted by Trout Bandit
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2012
13180 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:12 am to
If you're buying a frozen product, Basa is better than catfish. I prefer the fresh shite from Tony's though if I have to fry catfish.
Posted by AlxTgr
Kyre Banorg
Member since Oct 2003
81570 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:13 am to
quote:

Isn't Basa becoming a popular replacement too?
We had a place that listed Basa and American cat on the menu. The cat was a little more expensive. I never ordered the Basa, so I can't comment, but it has since closed.
Posted by surprisewitness
Littleton, CO
Member since Apr 2013
553 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:17 am to
basa = swai and they sell it here at HEB as pangasius
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27049 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:19 am to
quote:

I'd rather have wild caught local catfish to the pond-raised stuff any day


Considering the shite we put in our water bodies, you can keep your wild catfish. I'll stick to US farm raised catfish.


Follow up to OP, is it illegal to say catfish on the menu and serve swai? If not, seems like it should be.
Posted by Croacka
Denham Springs
Member since Dec 2008
61441 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:19 am to
I just read about both

Technically they are different species but pretty similar I suppose
Posted by Mung
NorCal
Member since Aug 2007
9054 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:20 am to
I'd be willing to bet that most of these restaurants serve whatever is cheapest, Basa, farm raised shrimp, chinese crawfish. We should ask Robbie G's.
Posted by hungryone
river parishes
Member since Sep 2010
11987 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:23 am to
Pond raised tastes kinda corny/muddy/dog-foody to me, especially when broiled/baked/cooked 'dry' (as opposed to fried or sauce piquante). Wild tastes, well, wild: a more multidimensional flavor. Kinda like domestic duck vs wild duck.

Yes, our dirty waters drain an entire continent. They're no cleaner than the Mekong or Chao Phraya, so wild LA catfish is probably no more or less yukky than swai/basa. Still, would rather support my local LA fisherman than a MS pond catfish farm.
Posted by LouisianaLady
Member since Mar 2009
81164 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:26 am to
quote:

I'd rather have wild caught local catfish to the pond-raised stuff any day.



I like the American farm raised much better. When we switched to wild caught in the restaurant, I got more complaints than ever about the "black/grey stuff" on the fish. Maybe it was just shitty wild caught, but it was definitely from Louisiana We ended up switching back to farm raised after a lot of the catfish dinners were being sent back for the color, texture, and dirtier taste.
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:28 am to
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Follow up to OP, is it illegal to say catfish on the menu and serve swai? If not, seems like it should be.



It is illegal but not sure how enforced it is.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
27049 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:29 am to
It's your body, so I won't tell you you're wrong for what you want to put in it, but I know I don't trust wild catfish. I used to do a lot of work in the water quality field and don't trust most of our rivers and lakes to produce safe fish.
Posted by Dingeaux
Baton Rouge
Member since Nov 2005
4923 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:34 am to
I always check the menu to see if it says "fried fish" or "fried catfish".
Posted by JasonL79
Member since Jan 2010
6397 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:38 am to
quote:

It's your body, so I won't tell you you're wrong for what you want to put in it, but I know I don't trust wild catfish. I used to do a lot of work in the water quality field and don't trust most of our rivers and lakes to produce safe fish.


How much safer is pond raised? I know pond raised seafood is given antibiotics and other chemicals to keep them from getting sick and dying.
Posted by Winkface
Member since Jul 2010
34377 posts
Posted on 4/9/15 at 9:43 am to
I was at Restaurant Depot last week and saw a guy loading up on boxes of Swai. I really wanted to follow him and see where he went. So that I knew to never go there.
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