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Question About Sous Vide & Meal Prep For A Week

Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
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Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:43 pm
I currently cook everyday and eat right away, but the chicken, which is amazing takes 2 hours to prepare. I have a monster 20 gallon pot, If I wanted to cook say 8-10 chicken breasts at once could I do that and leave them in the fridge? I would then obviously take them out 1 by 1 and sear them for a couple minutes to finish them off, but can you sous vide the chicken and throw them in the fridge for a few days or do they go bad pretty quickly?

Someone on the money board mentioned this idea and I came to ask bc I've personally always cooked and eaten right away and I dont know much about storage & flavor after refrigeration.

thanks
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:59 pm to
You can totally do that, just make sure to shock them in an ice bath when they get done. Then you can refrigerate them for up to a week or so. Just make sure they are cold before going in the fridge so they are out of the temp danger zone for bacteria.
Posted by BRgetthenet
Member since Oct 2011
117678 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:00 pm to
I know a lot of people like to sous vide and then add ice to the pot.

After that, they use a blow torch somehow or another.


Hope this helps.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:12 pm to
I'm not a professional chef by any means so if I cook them and don't ice the vaccusealed bags and I put them in the fridge there is potential for bacteria? But if I ice them that diminishes?
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:22 pm to
So food has to be kept either under 40 deg or above 140 deg. to reduce the risk of bacteria or food poisoning. So if you Sous vide the chicken breast at 140-155 range for an hour or two they would be at that temp. If you chuck them in the fridge it could take a few hours before the got below 40 deg the safe zone. Leaving them in the danger zone of 40-140 for that time period is not recommended. This is why they need to get dunked in ice water to bring them down below 40 quickly then put in the fridge.
Posted by dabigfella
Member since Mar 2016
6687 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:33 pm to
thanks for the info! Question though, the salmon I cook sous vide the most often is at 110 for 45 minutes on the "soft and buttery" setting.....is that bad then?
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 7:34 pm
Posted by golfntiger32
Ohio
Member since Oct 2013
12486 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:18 pm to
Nope its ok because you dont leave it at that temp long enough for stuff to grow. Before you eat it. It has to do with food left in that Danger Zone for more than 3-4 hours.
Posted by Howyouluhdat
On Fleek St
Member since Jan 2015
7318 posts
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:57 pm to
It's ok bro. I leave shite out at room temp over night all the time and it's still good.
Posted by CajunAlum Tiger Fan
The Great State of Louisiana
Member since Jan 2008
7871 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:46 am to
quote:

So food has to be kept either under 40 deg or above 140 deg. to reduce the risk of bacteria or food poisoning. So if you Sous vide the chicken breast at 140-155 range for an hour or two they would be at that temp. If you chuck them in the fridge it could take a few hours before the got below 40 deg the safe zone. Leaving them in the danger zone of 40-140 for that time period is not recommended. This is why they need to get dunked in ice water to bring them down below 40 quickly then put in the fridge.


Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?

The "danger zone" is for raw foods.
Posted by ruzil
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2012
16870 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:24 am to
quote:


Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?

The "danger zone" is for raw foods.


Good luck with your botulism!
Posted by Salmon
On the trails
Member since Feb 2008
83521 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:35 am to
quote:

Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?


depends on the internal temperature that you cooked your leftovers to

Posted by TigerstuckinMS
Member since Nov 2005
33687 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:48 am to
quote:

Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?

The "danger zone" is for raw foods.

No, the danger zone is for all foods. Raw or cooked, if you introduce pathogens to the food and hold it at a temperature where bacteria can thrive, you run the risk of getting yourself sick if you eat it. If it's food held in the danger zone in an anaerobic environment (sealed foods, some infused oils, wrapped baked potatoes, etc.), you run the risk of killing yourself if you eat it. This, particularly, is why sous vide foods need to be chilled as quickly as possible. The temperatures don't get high enough to destroy Clostridium Botulinum's spores or toxins and you've got everything vacuum packed and sealed. C. Botulinum will only produce its toxin under an anaerobic environment like the inside of your sous vide bag. Sooo, you either eat it right away or chill it down as fast as humanly possible because you don't want C. Botulinum to have a chance to produce toxins. Just for shits and giggles, botulinum toxin is the most lethal toxin known to man and minute amounts on the order of nanograms of toxin to kilogram of body weight will kill you.

This kid doesn't seem too thrilled with the botulism he got. He's fully conscious, too.

Food borne illnesses ain't nothing to mess with. They're fairly rare, but they can frick you up royally.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:59 am
Posted by Earthquake 88
Mobile
Member since Jan 2010
3006 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:32 am to
I let my stuff cool down on the counter then stick it in the fridge. It doesn't take that long to cool down. If I'm in a hurry and need to leave the house then I shock it in ice water.
Posted by Mr B Walker
Member since Jun 2015
174 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:08 pm to
The only problem i've run across searing refrigerated sous vide meat is that you will either have to sacrifice temp or texture. You can sear it quick like you would if you had just cooked it, but it won't get very warm all the way through. Or you can sear it longer to get it warmed through, but lose the texture you were originally aiming for by cooking it sous vide.
Usually people recommend putting the meat back in the water bath after taking it out the fridge and then searing it. But this doesnt really save you any time.

Sometimes i'll fill my sink with very hot water and throw the bag in there while I work on other parts of my meal. I turned up the temp on my hot water heater just for this and to save time preheating my water baths.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted by gorillacoco
Baton Rouge
Member since Oct 2009
5318 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:18 pm to
quote:

I'm not a professional chef by any means so if I cook them and don't ice the vaccusealed bags and I put them in the fridge there is potential for bacteria? But if I ice them that diminishes?


Assuming you're cooking over 140°, the risk is minimized by the food being in a sealed bag in the first place, but how many people do you know that ever take cooked food and ice it before putting it in the fridge? Not many. Sure there is always some small risk though, so if you're an at risk person (real old or you have some chronic disease) or just a real food safety nut and like your steak well done, you might consider it.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

No, the danger zone is for all foods. Raw or cooked, if you introduce pathogens to the food and hold it at a temperature where bacteria can thrive, you run the risk of getting yourself sick if you eat it. If it's food held in the danger zone in an anaerobic environment (sealed foods, some infused oils, wrapped baked potatoes, etc.), you run the risk of killing yourself if you eat it. This, particularly, is why sous vide foods need to be chilled as quickly as possible. The temperatures don't get high enough to destroy Clostridium Botulinum's spores or toxins and you've got everything vacuum packed and sealed. C. Botulinum will only produce its toxin under an anaerobic environment like the inside of your sous vide bag. Sooo, you either eat it right away or chill it down as fast as humanly possible because you don't want C. Botulinum to have a chance to produce toxins. Just for shits and giggles, botulinum toxin is the most lethal toxin known to man and minute amounts on the order of nanograms of toxin to kilogram of body weight will kill you.

This kid doesn't seem too thrilled with the botulism he got. He's fully conscious, too.

Food borne illnesses ain't nothing to mess with. They're fairly rare, but they can frick you up royally.


This! Ice bath after unless consuming immediately.
Posted by torrey225
Member since Mar 2015
1437 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 2:26 pm to
LINK

Sous vide and freeze or just sous vide as you need the meat. Using an ice bath right after cooking minimizes the spores but does not eliminate them.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted by leveedogs
Levee
Member since Jan 2016
276 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:29 pm to
Ice bath is totally unnecessary. 140F for two hours then transitioning to the fridge will absolutely not put you at risk. For a spore-forming organism to reproduce and produce enough toxin to make you sick would take far more than the time it takes to cool food to <40F in the fridge.
Posted by TigerDeBaiter
Member since Dec 2010
10256 posts
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:55 pm to
quote:

Sometimes i'll fill my sink with very hot water and throw the bag in there while I work on other parts of my meal. I turned up the temp on my hot water heater just for this and to save time preheating my water baths.


Lol. Wow.
Posted by Degas
2187645493 posts
Member since Jul 2010
11385 posts
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:41 am to
quote:

Ice bath is totally unnecessary.


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