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Question About Sous Vide & Meal Prep For A Week
Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:43 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:43 pm
I currently cook everyday and eat right away, but the chicken, which is amazing takes 2 hours to prepare. I have a monster 20 gallon pot, If I wanted to cook say 8-10 chicken breasts at once could I do that and leave them in the fridge? I would then obviously take them out 1 by 1 and sear them for a couple minutes to finish them off, but can you sous vide the chicken and throw them in the fridge for a few days or do they go bad pretty quickly?
Someone on the money board mentioned this idea and I came to ask bc I've personally always cooked and eaten right away and I dont know much about storage & flavor after refrigeration.
thanks
Someone on the money board mentioned this idea and I came to ask bc I've personally always cooked and eaten right away and I dont know much about storage & flavor after refrigeration.
thanks
Posted on 3/15/17 at 6:59 pm to dabigfella
You can totally do that, just make sure to shock them in an ice bath when they get done. Then you can refrigerate them for up to a week or so. Just make sure they are cold before going in the fridge so they are out of the temp danger zone for bacteria.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:00 pm to dabigfella
I know a lot of people like to sous vide and then add ice to the pot.
After that, they use a blow torch somehow or another.
Hope this helps.
After that, they use a blow torch somehow or another.
Hope this helps.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:12 pm to golfntiger32
I'm not a professional chef by any means so if I cook them and don't ice the vaccusealed bags and I put them in the fridge there is potential for bacteria? But if I ice them that diminishes?
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:22 pm to dabigfella
So food has to be kept either under 40 deg or above 140 deg. to reduce the risk of bacteria or food poisoning. So if you Sous vide the chicken breast at 140-155 range for an hour or two they would be at that temp. If you chuck them in the fridge it could take a few hours before the got below 40 deg the safe zone. Leaving them in the danger zone of 40-140 for that time period is not recommended. This is why they need to get dunked in ice water to bring them down below 40 quickly then put in the fridge.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 7:33 pm to golfntiger32
thanks for the info! Question though, the salmon I cook sous vide the most often is at 110 for 45 minutes on the "soft and buttery" setting.....is that bad then?
This post was edited on 3/15/17 at 7:34 pm
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:18 pm to dabigfella
Nope its ok because you dont leave it at that temp long enough for stuff to grow. Before you eat it. It has to do with food left in that Danger Zone for more than 3-4 hours.
Posted on 3/15/17 at 8:57 pm to golfntiger32
It's ok bro. I leave shite out at room temp over night all the time and it's still good.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 6:46 am to golfntiger32
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So food has to be kept either under 40 deg or above 140 deg. to reduce the risk of bacteria or food poisoning. So if you Sous vide the chicken breast at 140-155 range for an hour or two they would be at that temp. If you chuck them in the fridge it could take a few hours before the got below 40 deg the safe zone. Leaving them in the danger zone of 40-140 for that time period is not recommended. This is why they need to get dunked in ice water to bring them down below 40 quickly then put in the fridge.
Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?
The "danger zone" is for raw foods.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:24 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?
The "danger zone" is for raw foods.
Good luck with your botulism!
Posted on 3/16/17 at 7:35 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
quote:
Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?
depends on the internal temperature that you cooked your leftovers to
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:48 am to CajunAlum Tiger Fan
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Using your logic, how would we ever eat leftovers? You don't drop other foods (non sous vide) in an ice bath before refrigerating, do you?
The "danger zone" is for raw foods.
No, the danger zone is for all foods. Raw or cooked, if you introduce pathogens to the food and hold it at a temperature where bacteria can thrive, you run the risk of getting yourself sick if you eat it. If it's food held in the danger zone in an anaerobic environment (sealed foods, some infused oils, wrapped baked potatoes, etc.), you run the risk of killing yourself if you eat it. This, particularly, is why sous vide foods need to be chilled as quickly as possible. The temperatures don't get high enough to destroy Clostridium Botulinum's spores or toxins and you've got everything vacuum packed and sealed. C. Botulinum will only produce its toxin under an anaerobic environment like the inside of your sous vide bag. Sooo, you either eat it right away or chill it down as fast as humanly possible because you don't want C. Botulinum to have a chance to produce toxins. Just for shits and giggles, botulinum toxin is the most lethal toxin known to man and minute amounts on the order of nanograms of toxin to kilogram of body weight will kill you.
This kid doesn't seem too thrilled with the botulism he got. He's fully conscious, too.
Food borne illnesses ain't nothing to mess with. They're fairly rare, but they can frick you up royally.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 10:59 am
Posted on 3/16/17 at 11:32 am to golfntiger32
I let my stuff cool down on the counter then stick it in the fridge. It doesn't take that long to cool down. If I'm in a hurry and need to leave the house then I shock it in ice water.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:08 pm to dabigfella
The only problem i've run across searing refrigerated sous vide meat is that you will either have to sacrifice temp or texture. You can sear it quick like you would if you had just cooked it, but it won't get very warm all the way through. Or you can sear it longer to get it warmed through, but lose the texture you were originally aiming for by cooking it sous vide.
Usually people recommend putting the meat back in the water bath after taking it out the fridge and then searing it. But this doesnt really save you any time.
Sometimes i'll fill my sink with very hot water and throw the bag in there while I work on other parts of my meal. I turned up the temp on my hot water heater just for this and to save time preheating my water baths.
Usually people recommend putting the meat back in the water bath after taking it out the fridge and then searing it. But this doesnt really save you any time.
Sometimes i'll fill my sink with very hot water and throw the bag in there while I work on other parts of my meal. I turned up the temp on my hot water heater just for this and to save time preheating my water baths.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 12:12 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 12:18 pm to dabigfella
quote:
I'm not a professional chef by any means so if I cook them and don't ice the vaccusealed bags and I put them in the fridge there is potential for bacteria? But if I ice them that diminishes?
Assuming you're cooking over 140°, the risk is minimized by the food being in a sealed bag in the first place, but how many people do you know that ever take cooked food and ice it before putting it in the fridge? Not many. Sure there is always some small risk though, so if you're an at risk person (real old or you have some chronic disease) or just a real food safety nut and like your steak well done, you might consider it.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 2:19 pm to TigerstuckinMS
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No, the danger zone is for all foods. Raw or cooked, if you introduce pathogens to the food and hold it at a temperature where bacteria can thrive, you run the risk of getting yourself sick if you eat it. If it's food held in the danger zone in an anaerobic environment (sealed foods, some infused oils, wrapped baked potatoes, etc.), you run the risk of killing yourself if you eat it. This, particularly, is why sous vide foods need to be chilled as quickly as possible. The temperatures don't get high enough to destroy Clostridium Botulinum's spores or toxins and you've got everything vacuum packed and sealed. C. Botulinum will only produce its toxin under an anaerobic environment like the inside of your sous vide bag. Sooo, you either eat it right away or chill it down as fast as humanly possible because you don't want C. Botulinum to have a chance to produce toxins. Just for shits and giggles, botulinum toxin is the most lethal toxin known to man and minute amounts on the order of nanograms of toxin to kilogram of body weight will kill you.
This kid doesn't seem too thrilled with the botulism he got. He's fully conscious, too.
Food borne illnesses ain't nothing to mess with. They're fairly rare, but they can frick you up royally.
This! Ice bath after unless consuming immediately.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 2:26 pm to dabigfella
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Sous vide and freeze or just sous vide as you need the meat. Using an ice bath right after cooking minimizes the spores but does not eliminate them.
Sous vide and freeze or just sous vide as you need the meat. Using an ice bath right after cooking minimizes the spores but does not eliminate them.
This post was edited on 3/16/17 at 2:27 pm
Posted on 3/16/17 at 9:29 pm to dabigfella
Ice bath is totally unnecessary. 140F for two hours then transitioning to the fridge will absolutely not put you at risk. For a spore-forming organism to reproduce and produce enough toxin to make you sick would take far more than the time it takes to cool food to <40F in the fridge.
Posted on 3/16/17 at 10:55 pm to Mr B Walker
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Sometimes i'll fill my sink with very hot water and throw the bag in there while I work on other parts of my meal. I turned up the temp on my hot water heater just for this and to save time preheating my water baths.
Lol. Wow.
Posted on 3/17/17 at 1:41 am to leveedogs
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Ice bath is totally unnecessary.
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