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re: PuttaDaForkDown v2.0
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:34 am to Lazy But Talented
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:34 am to Lazy But Talented
Here's what I see for 10oz of raw boneless, skinless chicken breast in MFP.. from a verified entry:
Calories 408
Sodium 153 mg
Total Fat 9 g
Potassium 1,136 mg
Saturated 2 g
Total Carbs 0 g
Polyunsaturated 1 g
Dietary Fiber 0 g
Monounsaturated 2 g
Sugars 0 g
Trans 0 g
Protein 76 g
Cholesterol 248 mg
For 10oz cooked (not a verified source):
Calories 280
Sodium 300 mg
Total Fat 6 g
Potassium 0 mg
Saturated 1 g
Total Carbs 0 g
Polyunsaturated 0 g
Dietary Fiber 0 g
Monounsaturated 0 g
Sugars 0 g
Trans 0 g
Protein 58 g
Cholesterol 163 mg
I'm a little surprised by the cooked #s.. All of the water cooks out so the nutrients should be more dense/oz, right? But the macros roughly add up to the calorie count.
Anyway, I usually try to measure meat raw, but i cooked a frick ton of chicken and pork tenderloin in the oven and then chopped it up and measured it to portion it out.. so I used cooked measurements.
National Chicken Council's #s..
Here's the National Chicken council's numbers..
Cooked:
3.5oz
165 cals
31g protein
3.6g fat
So 10 oz of that:
471 cals
88g protein
10g fat
who knows?
Calories 408
Sodium 153 mg
Total Fat 9 g
Potassium 1,136 mg
Saturated 2 g
Total Carbs 0 g
Polyunsaturated 1 g
Dietary Fiber 0 g
Monounsaturated 2 g
Sugars 0 g
Trans 0 g
Protein 76 g
Cholesterol 248 mg
For 10oz cooked (not a verified source):
Calories 280
Sodium 300 mg
Total Fat 6 g
Potassium 0 mg
Saturated 1 g
Total Carbs 0 g
Polyunsaturated 0 g
Dietary Fiber 0 g
Monounsaturated 0 g
Sugars 0 g
Trans 0 g
Protein 58 g
Cholesterol 163 mg
I'm a little surprised by the cooked #s.. All of the water cooks out so the nutrients should be more dense/oz, right? But the macros roughly add up to the calorie count.
Anyway, I usually try to measure meat raw, but i cooked a frick ton of chicken and pork tenderloin in the oven and then chopped it up and measured it to portion it out.. so I used cooked measurements.
National Chicken Council's #s..
Here's the National Chicken council's numbers..
Cooked:
3.5oz
165 cals
31g protein
3.6g fat
So 10 oz of that:
471 cals
88g protein
10g fat
who knows?This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 10:39 am
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Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:45 am to Hulkklogan
quote:
who knows?
idk but I wish I did so I could make sure I am getting me 225g.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:48 am to Lazy But Talented
I'd trust a verified MFP source of raw chicken breast and work off of that. Where did you get your #s from?
Posted on 1/16/17 at 10:57 am to Hulkklogan
I have no clue anymore
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:11 am to Lazy But Talented
I'm hitting 17 hours since i've eaten, finally getting really hungry.
Here is the USDA website's numbers for chicken.. I trust the USDA's numbers:
12oz of cooked boneless skinless chicken breast
513 cals
11g fat
104g protein
Welp.. My #s are WAY off in MFP
Here is the USDA website's numbers for chicken.. I trust the USDA's numbers:
12oz of cooked boneless skinless chicken breast
513 cals
11g fat
104g protein
Welp.. My #s are WAY off in MFP
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:18 am to Hulkklogan
i just want the damn truth
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:19 am to Lazy But Talented
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 11:45 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:25 am to Hulkklogan
Those USDA numbers you posted are identical to the numbers I've been using in MFP.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:32 am to Lazy But Talented
This is what I am having today. I only brought 8oz of chicken for lunch so tonight should be pretty damn filling. I think I'm also upping the veggies to help with using the bathroom.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 11:33 am
Posted on 1/16/17 at 11:50 am to Lazy But Talented
I tell people to use raw uncooked numbers and find the mfp entry that matches the usda. Umbers. When you cook the food only the water leaves, the nutritional value stays the same and the usda numbers are run on raw meats.
But don't make a big deal out of it with the diet y'all are on. Now it can be the difference in being in a deficit on an iifym style diet though.
As far as the question on how to get protein or enough of it, hulk, lazy and myself are on a diet that all we get to eat is lean protein. So we eat 2 lbs of like chicken or some other type of extremely lean meat.
If I was on normal Keto I would be devouring red meat. I like Laura's 96% lean ground beef too, and might add it to the diet I am on for a change up starting next week.
But honestly the way to get enough protein is just eat. But in a Keto diet you only need .8g per kg of lean mass to maintain muscle if you are lifting. More will help with strength and your overall deficit because of the thermal effect but not needed really.
As far as the refeed goes, I will post the rules Lyle lays out in the book and post what we should prolly be doing. But I am like you lazy, just rather stay strict as I do better that away.
But don't make a big deal out of it with the diet y'all are on. Now it can be the difference in being in a deficit on an iifym style diet though.
As far as the question on how to get protein or enough of it, hulk, lazy and myself are on a diet that all we get to eat is lean protein. So we eat 2 lbs of like chicken or some other type of extremely lean meat.
If I was on normal Keto I would be devouring red meat. I like Laura's 96% lean ground beef too, and might add it to the diet I am on for a change up starting next week.
But honestly the way to get enough protein is just eat. But in a Keto diet you only need .8g per kg of lean mass to maintain muscle if you are lifting. More will help with strength and your overall deficit because of the thermal effect but not needed really.
As far as the refeed goes, I will post the rules Lyle lays out in the book and post what we should prolly be doing. But I am like you lazy, just rather stay strict as I do better that away.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 12:02 pm to Lazy But Talented
So for lunch today two baked chicken thighs and legs... According to MFP that runs 55g of protein from verified sources.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 12:22 pm to tduecen
Really depends on the size of the thighs and legs.. Gotta weigh them to get a real idea of the nutritional value. Skin on?
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 12:54 pm to lsu777
quote:
But don't make a big deal out of it with the diet y'all are on
Isn't the main point(s) for this diet to hit the protein macro and calorie deficit? If we don't know if we are hitting the protein macro, wouldn't that be a problem?
I'm tired of thinking about it. I'll start weighing raw next batch.
Going off these numbers from now on weighing raw
1 oz = 31 calories
16oz = 496.
1oz = 6g protein
16oz = 96
So I need to be eating 2lbs of chicken breast a day.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 1:22 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 3:23 pm to Hulkklogan
My excel sheet I use has 10oz cooked chicken breast at 66/8/0.
This post was edited on 1/16/17 at 3:23 pm
Posted on 1/16/17 at 4:25 pm to goldennugget
that looks like the raw numbers.
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:11 pm to Lazy But Talented
In the gym. In LSUWeights' stomping grounds. Beginning to feel the lack of real food, really hungry and shaky. I suppose I should be going into ketosis soon
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:24 pm to Hulkklogan
Chicken and veggies are real food damn it
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:34 pm to Lazy But Talented
You know what I mean dammit
Posted on 1/16/17 at 5:49 pm to Lazy But Talented
No that is the point but my point was you already in such a deficit that a few calories here or there is not going to make a difference.
Posted on 1/17/17 at 6:44 am to lsu777
306/265.0/220
Man, that short workout took it out of me. I felt like arse for about an hour afterwards.
I think I'm going to use the first of my 'free meals' tonight and crush a nice steak, salad, and mushrooms. 2nd free meal likely to be Saturday
eta
My BF% on the scale has gone from 32.5 to 31.8. Almost 1% bf in 3 days
Man, that short workout took it out of me. I felt like arse for about an hour afterwards.
I think I'm going to use the first of my 'free meals' tonight and crush a nice steak, salad, and mushrooms. 2nd free meal likely to be Saturday
eta
My BF% on the scale has gone from 32.5 to 31.8. Almost 1% bf in 3 days
This post was edited on 1/17/17 at 12:36 pm
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