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re: Parish Brewery new blog post - Limits + Brewery Production Survey Data

Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:30 pm to
Posted by BingWaterTiger
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:30 pm to
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Did they really need to put this out there like we are a bunch of 7 year olds that cant understand why a brewery would do this?
Godley is a member here, he knows the average TD IQ.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:31 pm to
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I don't know how the trend is going down there, but the equivalent would be that Abita would struggle, while Gnarley Barley, Parish, and Great Raft grow.


Abita is fine and there is a reason why Canebrake is Parish's best seller, light/wheat beer sells better to the mass.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:38 pm to
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aking a snapshot of today, our tanks are completely full of Canebrake, Envie, South Coast, DDH Envie, Ghost, and Opus Vert. T


I know how to open up some room for you
Posted by USEyourCURDS
Member since Apr 2016
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:41 pm to
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BingWaterTiger


Godley, that you ol' baw?
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:42 pm to
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they do think very highly of their beer and are very look at me so maybe yea he did put out this as a smart arse response to a few retards that ask him the question


Theres a local beer group on facebook that the meme came from, bunch of dudes (shitlords) on there complaining for awhile now about limits. I see this as a direct responce to that particular group.
Posted by Dire Wolf
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:44 pm to
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I think overall, growth will slow, but good new breweries will push crappy brewers out, and people are choosing local breweries over regional. I think you very well may see a slowdown in in the increase in overall sales, but an increase in the number of breweries. We're seeing that in Oregon, where breweries like Widmer Brothers and Bridgeport are losing marketshare to smaller, local brewpubs.



You see something similar to in Texas and less extent Louisiana when new breweries enter the market. There was a time that Founders or Oscr blues coming was a huge deal. Now they shelf turd and are a after thought beside a handful of beers.

I hardly see anyone buying Bell's in Texas.

It obviously isn't hurting the bigger craft breweries bottom line or else they wouldn't expand but anecdotally it seems people are buying more locally. From a consumer, Local beers just tend to be fresher.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 3:46 pm
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:47 pm to
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Abita is fine and there is a reason why Canebrake is Parish's best seller, light/wheat beer sells better to the mass.


That is probably true because in LA, the supply of local beer is still way below the demand. What I see here is that as beer from the smaller, more innovative breweries becomes more widely available, people switch from, Widmer Bros, Bridgeport, Rogue, Full Sail, etc, and start buying the beer from their local breweries.

Is Abita's in-state market share still growing?
Posted by GRTiger
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Member since Dec 2008
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:49 pm to
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From a consumer, Local beers just tend to be fresher.


That, and successful local breweries breed more entrants into the market, increasing quality and competitive pricing.

Other than one off national whales via trade and new regional (I.e. LA) beers via trade or mules, I am all Texas/Houston beers. Both of my taps at home are always Houston area breweries.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:52 pm to
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There was a time that Founders or Oscr blues coming was a huge deal. Now they shelf turd and are a after thought beside a handful of beers.

I hardly see anyone buying Bell's in Texas.


Exactly. My point is that the next step is that over time, more people will start passing over Abita for micro beers -
especially once the micro beers become easier to get on a regular basis.

ETA: I say micro brews, but I really mean, more local, fresher beers. It will be hard for Abita to compete with that.
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:52 pm to


Drink local.

Posted by LoneStarTiger
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Member since Aug 2004
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:52 pm to
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I hardly see anyone buying Bell's in Texas.


I tried to buy some Saturday but the Oberon was from March and the Two Hearted was from February.

which sort of proves your point about local beer
This post was edited on 6/7/17 at 3:54 pm
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:54 pm to
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Is Abita's in-state market share still growing?


I do not like any Abita products and will not buy them and don't know their current market penetration in LA but they certainly have a wide national distribution as well.
Posted by t00f
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:55 pm to
BTW, LOL as a reminder

Posted by t00f
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:56 pm to
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I hardly see anyone buying Bell's in Texas.


I tried to buy some Saturday but the Oberon was from March and the Two Hearted was from February.

which sort of proves your point about local beer



I had a Bell's Mars last night, it was fantastic!
Posted by rutiger
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Member since Jun 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:56 pm to


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quote: Is Abita's in-state market share still growing? I do not like any Abita products and will not buy them and don't know their current market penetration in LA but they certainly have a wide national distribution as well.


From the blog: Our state's largest and oldest brewery, Abita, has lost production volume (presumably from losing sales) for the past few years and that trend continued in 2016.
Posted by BugAC
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Member since Oct 2007
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 3:57 pm to
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Did they really need to put this out there like we are a bunch of 7 year olds that cant understand why a brewery would do this?




Well, i'm not sure if you read the whole release (not in the OP) but i was unaware of some of the market conditions locally and nationally, which is a better indicator of why they aren't pushing for a more aggressive expansion.
Posted by rutiger
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:00 pm to
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Parish Brewery new blog post - Limits + Brewery Production Survey Data by BugAC
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Did they really need to put this out there like we are a bunch of 7 year olds that cant understand why a brewery would do this?



Well, i'm not sure if you read the whole release (not in the OP) but i was unaware of some of the market conditions locally and nationally, which is a better indicator of why they aren't pushing for a more aggressive expansion.




I disagree with his apprehension. The treehouses and trilliums of the world are still expanding and have trouble keeping up with demand. He can become that in the south. The juiceheads would flock like seagulls.
Posted by t00f
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Member since Jul 2016
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:03 pm to
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Well, i'm not sure if you read the whole release (not in the OP)


I don't think you should pull the entire content from a website so I never post thew whole thing but link to it.
Posted by Tiger Ryno
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:04 pm to
Yes but people would not be shitlording cases if they reached a distribution point where they knew they could always find it on the shelf at their local grocer. The tricky part for parish is how much to bite off in expansion and when.
Posted by Jax-Tiger
Port Saint Lucie, FL
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/7/17 at 4:05 pm to
I left out Deschutes from my list. Deschutes is somewhat of a different animal, in that they seemed to be more beer-centric than the others, which are more marketing driven. Their regular lineup is still pretty solid, and they have a very good barrel aging program. I put them in the category with Lagunitas, Oskar Blues, Goose Island (pre-InBev), etc. They seem to grow organically because people like their beer, not because they have easy drinking beer and a great marketing plan.

I still enjoy going to the Deschutes Brewpubs, and they always have some good one-offs and BA beers on tap.
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