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Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:58 pm
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
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Posted on 7/3/16 at 9:58 pm
I committed to cooking Jambalaya for around 30 for a company retreat. When I committed I had never actually cooked Jambalaya before but i had seen it done many times. My idea was to cook Jambalaya, White beans, and a couple salads with bread.

So i decided to have a couple practice rounds before the big day.

1. My first practice I used a regular large saute pan. I used...

1.5 lbs of Boneless Skinless Chicken Thighs,
1 lb of smoked sausage
2 small yellow onions
1 bell pepper
4 stalks of celery

( and all of the other spices )

I used PARBOILED RICE this time, and chicken stock. (4 cups stock for 2 cups rice )

The Jambalaya was pretty good and the rice came out fine but i wasn't overly impressed.

2. My second practice I used a larger pot ( maybe 10 quarts ) I used...

3.0 lbs of Boneless Skinless Chicken Thighs
1 lb of Smoked Sausage
1.5 lbs of Pork Loin
3 Large yellow onions
1 small bell pepper
2 anaheim peppers
2 Poblano peppers
2 jalapeno peppers
4 stalks of celery

( and all of the other spices )

I used Cajun Country Long Grain Rice and chicken stock. ( 7.5 cups stock for 4 cups rice )

The Jambalaya was terrific except for the mushy rice.

I brought everything to a boil and added the rice, then brought it back to a boil, then turned to low and covered for 25 minutes. When i opened, there were pools of liquids. I rolled it a couple times and covered for another 10 minutes. Opened and still pools of liquid. I rolled again and put in oven at 300 for another 10. I rolled it again and the liquid had gone down but the rice was mushy.

I really loved the second recipe except for the mushy rice so i would like to cook this for the retreat.

Do you think less stock will solve this problem, or is there something else that i am not doing right?

Thank you for your help.
This post was edited on 7/11/16 at 4:01 pm
Posted by Rouge
Floston Paradise
Member since Oct 2004
136793 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:05 pm to
Use the calculator
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:06 pm to
The calculator calls for 2 to 1 stock to rice. That didn't work in this situation.

Now it could be the extra liquid from the veggies but I wouldnt think it would be that much.
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4741 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:32 pm to
Did you not brown the vegetables, or at least cook them down a good bit? Why would there be any residual water from the vegetables? And I usually use 1 3/4 cups stock per cup of rice. And use more meat. Typically about 1 pound raw meat per 3 servings. 30 servings, 9 pounds of meat. 3 chicken, 3 sausage, 3 pork butt, not loin.
Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:38 pm to
quote:

Why would there be any residual water from the vegetables?


Are you suggesting that I cook the vegetables down until their liquid completely evaporates? They would be burnt.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
1877 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:39 pm to
Sounds like you put rice in, brought to a boil, then covered? If so, that's your problem. You have to add the rice and get about a 7 minute low boil before putting the lid on. The water will boil off, and the rice will swell at the same time. They sort off meet in the middle. When you can rub your paddle (or spoon) through the rice and it leaves a "rut", that's when the lid goes on. Again, usually around 7 minutes.
Posted by Tigerpaw123
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2007
17252 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:41 pm to
Try 6 3/4 cups liquid to 4 cups rice (I use less liquid than most, but I don't have to fight mushy rice)

Bring it to a boil and keep it at a boil for 5 minutes stirring every 30 sec

Turn the heat down and cover for 10 min, at that point do not stir or roll it, just run your paddle around the edge to get the liquid back to the bottom, and don't take too long doing this, get it back covers quick

Cook for another 25 min on low then flip the rice but don't stir it, turn off heat cover and let it sit for another 15 minutes
Posted by Fratigerguy
Member since Jan 2014
4741 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:53 pm to
quote:

Are you suggesting that I cook the vegetables down until their liquid completely evaporates? They would be burnt.



quote:

I had never actually cooked Jambalaya before


You don't say?

Yes, I am suggesting that you brown the shite out of those vegetables. No, they won't be burnt.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
1877 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 10:57 pm to
Memorize the simple rules of thumb:

Meat to rice ratio:
Pork and Sausage - 2 to 1
Chicken - 3 to 1

Pork and Sausage - 75% pork, 25% sausage

Rice to onions - 1 to 1

One pound of rice = 2.5 cups = feeds 6 people (average)

Jambalayas 5 lbs of rice and bigger - 1 gallon for every 5 pounds. (some add a little more).

Jambalayas less than 5 Lbs - More water needed, usually almost 2 to 1 water to rice.
Posted by ZoneLiftGMC
Member since Oct 2010
869 posts
Posted on 7/3/16 at 11:20 pm to
quote:

Use the calculator

Yep...it works. Made dozens of jambs with the ratios in that calculator and it always works.

Posted by Kajungee
South ,Section 6 Row N
Member since Mar 2004
17033 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 7:37 am to
Browning the chicken will sometimes give off a good bit of liquid as it cooks. I will sometimes spoon most of the liquid out the pot and add as part of the stock. This also lets the chicken brown better, rather than boil. Also let the rice soak up a good bit of the liquid before covering as others have said. It there is excessive liquid on top when you go to turn the rice, you can remove some of it before turning to try to save it.
Posted by unclebuck504
N.O./B.R./ATL
Member since Feb 2010
1716 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 7:54 am to
Use the Jambalaya Calculator. Don't deviate from it. If it still comes out wrong, then there's a problem with your technique, not the recipe.

As it stands right now, you're soliciting all kinds of hypotheticals about what the issue is, and you can eliminate all of the ones about ingredients and amounts if you just stick to the calculator.

Once it's determined that it's your technique, it will be easier for people to help. Personally, I'm suspecting a problem with your pot, and you lifting the lid and or rolling the rice too often.
Posted by Stadium Rat
Metairie
Member since Jul 2004
9533 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 4:39 pm to
quote:

Jambalayas 5 lbs of rice and bigger - 1 gallon for every 5 pounds. (some add a little more).

If you do it this way, do you still bring to boil, add rice, bring to boil again, and then wait for the rice to plump before covering? Seems like you'd be a little short on liquid if you did. That's less than a 1.6-to-1 liquid-to-rice ratio.

quote:

One pound of rice = 2.5 cups
That's 12.5 cups for 5 pounds, so at 2-1, that calls for 25 cups, not 16 (1 gallon = 16 cups).
This post was edited on 7/4/16 at 4:45 pm
Posted by McCringleberryy
Member since Dec 2012
4306 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 5:33 pm to
Boil longer and keep your lid on a minimum of 30 minutes. If there is still liquid in the pot after that, scoop it out before you flip it.
Posted by Bro Dad
Used to live in LaPlass
Member since Feb 2015
803 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 9:33 pm to
I bring my rice to a rolling boil then turn the fire down to low, cover and cook the rice for 25 mins. Do not lift the lid. After 25 mins, turn fire off and fold rice over a few times. Put the lid on and walk away for 45 mins. Done. Perfect rice every time.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21909 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:05 pm to
quote:

Are you suggesting that I cook the vegetables down until their liquid completely evaporates? They would be burnt.




No they wouldnt.

This AM I cooked a 4 1/2 cup rice jambalaya. It took me 1hr and 15 min to brown my onion and peppers. That's after I cooked my meat and sausage.

Cook them down, get a little fon, deglaze. Repeat that about 30 times and your trinity will be just right.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 7:06 pm
Posted by L.A.
The Mojave Desert
Member since Aug 2003
61198 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:08 pm to
The liquid to rice ratio is ALWAYS subject to how tightly your lid seals. I learned that from a Japanese sushi chef. Since you used a different pot the second time, you might try using less liquid in that pot, say 1 3/4 cups liquid to 1 cup of rice. I use that ratio in one of my pots and it works like a charm. Hope this helps.

Posted by LakeViewLSU
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2009
17730 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:18 pm to
Thanks for the help guys. I'm confident that I can nail this one.
Posted by SlickRick55
Member since May 2016
1877 posts
Posted on 7/4/16 at 10:18 pm to
quote:

quote:
Jambalayas 5 lbs of rice and bigger - 1 gallon for every 5 pounds. (some add a little more).

If you do it this way, do you still bring to boil, add rice, bring to boil again, and then wait for the rice to plump before covering? Seems like you'd be a little short on liquid if you did. That's less than a 1.6-to-1 liquid-to-rice ratio.


Yep. Do it the same way. That ratio is the fine line of popped rice that is so coveted. But like I said, some use a little more then that to assure the rice pops.

quote:

quote:
One pound of rice = 2.5 cups

That's 12.5 cups for 5 pounds, so at 2-1, that calls for 25 cups, not 16 (1 gallon = 16 cups).


2 to 1 at that size will make wet, sticky rice.
However, some prefer wetter rice, I'm speaking from a competition standpoint.
Posted by CHEDBALLZ
South Central LA
Member since Dec 2009
21909 posts
Posted on 7/5/16 at 6:12 pm to
I made My First YouTube Video on how to cook Jambalaya rice.


It sucks, I know but maybe you can pick up a tip or two.
This post was edited on 7/5/16 at 6:31 pm
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