re: Ideal weight

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It's a shitty screening tool.

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how else are you going to gauge large populations? its a quick screening tool used to gauge the health of large populations

are there outliers that frick it up? of course, but for the average person, its works just fine, whether they want to admit it or not

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People definitely overestimate the amount of muscle they have and underestimate how much weight they need to lose especially the amount of weight they would need to lose to be ripped/have a sixpack.

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I'd need to lose at least 10 lbs, maybe 12-15 to be ripped. As of now, I have defined pec lines, obliques clearly visibly, 5.5 of the six pack and very lean I'm fairly vascular in my arms, hips and legs. 210 would be a good weight for me to look ripped.

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Why do it if it's ineffective?

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its not...

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I disagree that it is effective for the average person.

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well then I'm going to stop arguing then because we won't get anywhere

I think are overestimating the fat to muscle ratio of the average person

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Sorry that a test calling people in good shape overweight or obese is shitty.

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again

we are talking averages here

if a person regularly goes to the gym, BMI is not going to be a good indicator of that persons health

but the average person does not regularly go to the gym

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LNCHBOX

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Don't get mad at bmi because is says you are fat.

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Weight watchers online for men. Taken about 6 months. Slow and steady.

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Ah.. Good to know..

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I'm going to go for 165. At 174 I look pretty good for my age, but I don't look skinny. Just speaking for me, it's surprising how much fat I probably wouldn't admit I had. People are shocked and say "you didn't look fat to me."

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How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

Yeah..I found I pic of me from college , boy that was depressing.. Granted I did spend a few semesters with an S&C coach soo.. me at 185 back then was really lean looking..

I've been trying to drop weight b/c I just don't feel good and starting to have knee and back issues and i'm sure that's has to do with my extra weight even though I don't look overly fat

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The average 5'10" guy at 130 is not healthy or normal.

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eh...5'10" 130 is probably healthy...again too many variables

normal? probably not in an adult male in the US, no

but I don't think BMI is using "normal" like you are using normal

plus I think BMI is mostly used to screen severe obesity, which it increases in accuracy the higher the BMI numbers, which makes sense, there are obviously more fat people than really lean, strong athletes

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The accuracy of BMI as an indicator of body fatness also appears to be higher in persons with higher levels of BMI and body fatness16.

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LNCHBOX

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Maybe posting in the Put tha fork down thread will help you lose weight.

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How old are you if you don't mind me asking?

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54

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pic of me from college

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I was 5'8" and 118 when I started college.

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I've been trying to drop weight b/c I just don't feel good

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I hear you. Do it!

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I am sorry but I think the BMI charts are completely useless.

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everyone that think it is useless is probably in the overweight or obese range and it probably a regular at the gym so they get pissed off when something says they are overweight

BMI isn't for you, it acknowledges that it isn't for you, so stop being so insecure about it

if someone could come up with a more efficient and simpler way to screen large populations on weight, you should go ahead and do it because you could copyright that and make some money