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Homebrew: Extract IPA is too dark

Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:19 pm
Posted by Remedy
Member since Feb 2011
21 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:19 pm
Will switching to all dry malt extract from a LME/DME mix help?

Also, how long does an IPA need to age in the bottles before it reaches its peak?
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:21 pm to
What kind of Extract did you use? Where did you get it? A light color beer is not super easy to get using only extract. There are several other reasons it may have become too dark.

Have you tasted it?
Posted by Remedy
Member since Feb 2011
21 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:27 pm to
6.6 lbs Light LME
1 lb Golden DME

I added extra hops to the boil and dry hopped as well. It tasted good 5 days after bottling but had an odd creamy aroma.
This post was edited on 3/3/11 at 3:29 pm
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:33 pm to
Why do you think it is too dark? Obviously the golden DME is the ingredient that darkened it up some for you. But to be honest there is no reason that those two extracts would cause a beer to be "dark" imo. You certainly could have scorched the extract in the boil by either boiling too long or burning it on the bottom of the boil kettle.

And I am not sure what you mean by creamy aroma.
Posted by Boudreaux35
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Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:35 pm to
LME will darken over time. Depending on where you got it from, it may have been old. Also, (not sure how long you've been brewing, so you may already know this) You should always take your pot off the fire when adding extract as it will drop straight down (almost) and can get scorched. Even after you mix it in well, you want the fire just hot enough to produce a slow rolling boil. A rapid boil is going to darken the wort.

There are lots of sources that will recommend only using light extract. I have gotten to the point where I stick with extra light or light only, unless the beer I'm brewing is supposed to be a stout/porter color.
Posted by Grilled Bald Eagle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1069 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:39 pm to
As mentioned already, older DME/LME will produce a darker beer. Also, the maillard reaction will brown the extract somewhat during the boil.

Something you can experiment with is only adding a small amount of your extract (a pound or so) at the beginning of the boil, and then adding the rest for the last 5 mins. The long boil time exists to draw out the bitterness in the hops, and boiling the extract for an hour doesn't serve much purpose.
Posted by Grilled Bald Eagle
Baton Rouge
Member since Jun 2008
1069 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:41 pm to
quote:

There are lots of sources that will recommend only using light extract. I have gotten to the point where I stick with extra light or light only, unless the beer I'm brewing is supposed to be a stout/porter color.


I'd agree with this, actually. If you're doing extract, get the lightest extract you can find. Add your color through specialty grains.

Or, just don't worry about the color and drink it in an opaque stein.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
21394 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:48 pm to
An IPA doesn't need a lot of color anyway. In fact, Just about the lightest extract will give you enough color for an IPA.

You want a real challenge as an extract brewer? Try brewing a pilsner or a blonde ale that qualifies by color using only extract.
Posted by Remedy
Member since Feb 2011
21 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 3:49 pm to
The extract can out of a brewers best kit so shelf time could be an issue. I'll definitely take the pot off the burner while adding the LME in the future.

The grains are 1b caramel 40l and 8 oz Victory. Steeped at 150 degrees for 20 minutes.
Posted by Fratastic423
Baton Rouge
Member since Feb 2007
5990 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 5:31 pm to
Well depending on the color you were going for that crystal 40 and victory will darken the beer up a good bit. Not black by any means but definitely not like a light in color ipa. That would probably give you a more amber color than a golden color.
Posted by Catman88
Baton Rouge, LA
Member since Dec 2004
49125 posts
Posted on 3/3/11 at 8:01 pm to
Do you have any pictures? Im curious what is too dark. I havent checked in a while but does Beersmith have LME in its list? If so you could enter the receipe there and it will tell you the expected color.
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