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Home Brewing Thread of the Day - Making a Starter

Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:11 pm
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:11 pm
I'm just getting into home-brew and finally received my starter kit last week. I want to brew my first batch of home-brew on Sunday but will not be home Saturday to make a starter.

Question:

1. Can I make a starter today after work and let it sit until Sunday? If so, what conditions should I leave it in.

2. I've read up on how to make a starter from John Palmer's book, but would like to see if anyone has tips or tricks on what equipment they use to make a starter and what steps they take. (I guess this wasn't technically a question. )


Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:21 pm to
quote:

SLafourche07


We were just talking about this here.



But to answer your question...


I occasionally make a starter in a 1L Flask on a stir plate by adding a portion of DME to about 800 mL of water. Boiling it careful not to boil over and cooling it to pitching temps for my smack pack or white labs vial.


What kind of yeast are you using?
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 1:24 pm
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:33 pm to
Thanks for the link. I was reading that thread yesterday but I hadn't checked it yet today.


I have dry yeast. Safale US-05. I'm going to try to make the blonde ale kit that came with the brew kit that I bought from More Beer. I also have Wyeast American 1056 that I bought to go with a stout kit that I'm going to try to make later, but I'm not opposed to trashing the dry yeast and using the liquid for this batch of blonde if that would be recommended.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:38 pm to
quote:

I bought to go with a stout kit that I'm going to try to make later, but I'm not opposed to trashing the dry yeast and using the liquid for this batch of blonde if that would be recommended.



I think plenty of people use dry yeast all of the time with no issues.

I'm not real familiar with them though.
Posted by Boudreaux35
BR
Member since Sep 2007
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:48 pm to
You don't need a starter with dry yeast. In fact, some "experts" even discourage starters with dry yeasts. US-05 is a workhorse anyway. Just cool your wort and sprinkle on top. Maybe aggitate a little....24-36 hrs later, it'll be churning away.
Posted by Zappas Stache
Utility Muffin Research Kitchen
Member since Apr 2009
38625 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:52 pm to
Stir plate is nice to have but before I bought mine, I made starters from tiny amounts of yeast from the bottom of a belgian beer without a stir plate.

I typically mash one day and boil the next. I always take a 2 liter amount of my mashed wort, boil and use this to make my starter so my beer only has the grains I wanted in it...no DME. Typically a starter is ready to pitch in about 12 hours.

I always use Mr. malty LINK to calculate my starter size. I usually don't get quite as much starter as me malty says to use....it said I needed a 2.34 liter starter for my last brew. I used 2 liters.

You can let a starter sit a couple of ways.

1. Let it work overnight and then put it in the fridge. All the yeast will settle to the bottom. Take it out of the fridge on brew day and let it warm to the recommended fermentation temp...about 68. Before you pitch, slowly pour the liquid from your starter out into the sink....all the yeast is in the bottom. Leave enough liquid to swirl around and mix with the yeast and pitch this. This is a good technique when you have to make a big starter of 2 liters (*1/2 gallon) and don't want to pitch that much liquid into an already full carboy.

2. Or....you can just let the starter sit at around 68-72 degrees and pitch the whole thing on Sunday. Be sanitary...cover the starter with sanitized foil the whole time.

ETA: Like others have said, depending on your OG, you may not need a starter. I used to never make starters.
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 1:55 pm
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 1:58 pm to
quote:

have dry yeast. Safale US-05. I'm going to try to make the blonde ale kit that came with the brew kit that I bought from More Beer.


You don't need a starter for US-05. Sprinkle it on top of your wort, shake the whole carboy and watch it take off within the next 12 hours.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14687 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:19 pm to
quote:

You don't need a starter for US-05. Sprinkle it on top of your wort, shake the whole carboy and watch it take off within the next 12 hours.



This.
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:20 pm to
Thanks for all the responses guys. Looks like this time I'll just sprinkle it in.

I have a glass carboy. By shaking it up, do you mean rocking it like a baby or should I put it in my truck and go hit some potholes?

I imagine that bitch is going to get pretty heavy.
Posted by BottomlandBrew
Member since Aug 2010
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Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:25 pm to
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put it in my truck and go hit some potholes?


Might not be the best idea for the glass, but you're on the right track for the amount of shaking. Yeast love oxygen pre-fermentation.
Posted by BMoney
Baton Rouge
Member since Jan 2005
16255 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:28 pm to
quote:

have a glass carboy. By shaking it up, do you mean rocking it like a baby or should I put it in my truck and go hit some potholes?

I imagine that bitch is going to get pretty heavy.


Yeah, it's gonna be heavy as shite. But pick it up and shake it as best as you can. Those yeasties need oxygen, and by shaking it, you're giving it to them. Give it to them hard!
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52734 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

Can I make a starter today after work and let it sit until Sunday? If so, what conditions should I leave it in.


Yes. I made mine yesterday and will be brewing tomorrow.

quote:

2. I've read up on how to make a starter from John Palmer's book, but would like to see if anyone has tips or tricks on what equipment they use to make a starter and what steps they take. (I guess this wasn't technically a question.


I use palmer's book too. My starters have been small so in the future i will make them bigger. Bring 4 cups water and 3.5 oz Dry malt extract to a boil. Let boil for 10 minutes. Watch for boil overs. Take pot off stove and put it in an ice bath in sink. Let cool to at least 80 degrees. Add to your erlinmeyer flask (i hear mason jars work just as well), and you can cover with some foil. Make sure to sanitize the foil.

Then just stir it up every now and then. I stir every time i go in the kitchen. I keep my starter in the pantry, with the door closed so no light gets to it.

Starters aren't necessary, but they help tremendously. So even if you don't see any starter action, when you pitch, you are about 95% certain you'll get some good fermentation.
Posted by s14suspense
Baton Rouge
Member since Mar 2007
14687 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:30 pm to
quote:

I imagine that bitch is going to get pretty heavy.



Yes, BE VERY CAREFUL with glass. Don't set it down too hard don't bump it against anything and don't shake it with wet hands. Those things almost WANT to break it seems. I've seen too many stitches and beershed over a glass carboy.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52734 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:33 pm to
quote:

By shaking it up, do you mean rocking it like a baby or should I put it in my truck and go hit some potholes?

I imagine that bitch is going to get pretty heavy.


It's damned heavy. Water weighs about 10 lbs/gallon, plus the weight of the carboy, about 10 lbs, plus the added weight of malted grains, about 11-12 lbs/gallon. I usually pick it up, put a piece of sanitized saran wrap over the opening and rubber band it secure. And then shake the shite out of the carboy for about 1-2 minutes. Seems to work fine.
This post was edited on 6/28/13 at 2:35 pm
Posted by SLafourche07
Member since Feb 2008
9928 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:53 pm to
This thread has been very helpful. (For this starterless batch and for future batches that I use starters.)


I think I've decided the best way to shake it up. I'm going to buy a trampoline and blare "You're My Best Friend" by Queen while jumping with my carboy. If any of you would like to use my idea for future batches, I am fine with it.
Posted by BugAC
St. George
Member since Oct 2007
52734 posts
Posted on 6/28/13 at 2:57 pm to
quote:

I think I've decided the best way to shake it up. I'm going to buy a trampoline and blare "You're My Best Friend" by Queen while jumping with my carboy. If any of you would like to use my idea for future batches, I am fine with it.




I think that's the only way to do this.
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