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For rice and gravy, do you brown the onions first or the meat or at the same tim

Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:18 pm
Posted by Shane4689
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:18 pm
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Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:19 pm to
I do both at the same time. Add beef stock when the meat is browned and onions are translucent.
Posted by dnm3305
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:26 pm to
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I do both at the same time. Add beef stock when the meat is browned and onions are translucent.


You should not have to add "stock" to a rice and gravy. You are making your own stock with aromatic vegetables and usually fatty meat. To the O.P. -
brown your meat well in fat alone, then use vegetables and a slight amount of moisture to deglaze bottom of pot/pan and loosen stuck bits. Once vegetables have cooked for a while, I usually add a slight amount of fat and flour (only a few tbps) to get the base for any gravy.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 1:27 pm
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:39 pm to
Agree--brown the meat a little, then use the onions to deglaze the fond off the bottom of the pot.
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

brown the meat a little


Brown the meat a lot.

FIFY
Posted by LouisianaLady
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 1:44 pm to
I always brown the meat first in anything I make that requires browning of meat. Those bits will stick to/flavor your vegetables.
Posted by Epic Cajun
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:04 pm to
Meat first always
Posted by OTIS2
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:07 pm to
Brown the meat, remove and add onions. Caramelize the crap out of them and then slowly build the gravy with small portions of stock or water as you add the meat back in to braise. I learned from EP natives.
Posted by TIGERFANZZ
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:09 pm to
Brown the meat, when it's just about done, throw in onions & let them brown with meat.
This post was edited on 4/29/15 at 2:10 pm
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:35 pm to
I usually put stock in then use some corn starch to thicken
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:36 pm to
Apparently using stock is frowned upon
Posted by Salmon
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:37 pm to
brown meat
remove meat
melt butter
saute onions
throw in flour
add stock
add meat back and let finish in gravy
Posted by hungryone
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:38 pm to
quote:

Apparently using stock is frowned upon

Cornstarch is also frowned upon.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:40 pm to
Depends on how much I've had to drink.
Posted by TH03
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:40 pm to
Don't even care
Posted by mouton
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:42 pm to
Im waiting for someone to say add some kitchen bouquet to get your gravy good and dark.
Posted by GingerMerkin
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:45 pm to
I'm a meat first kind of guy.
Posted by Count Chocula
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:46 pm to
quote:

add some kitchen bouquet to get your gravy good and dark.
Never been ashamed to admit that. Works on gumbo darkening too.

There, I said it! Let the crucifixion begin!

Posted by jamboybarry
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:48 pm to
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Im waiting for someone to say add some kitchen bouquet to get your gravy good and dark


I use peanut butter for color







































and taste
Posted by mouton
Savannah,Ga
Member since Aug 2006
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Posted on 4/29/15 at 2:48 pm to
In you use kitchen bouquet you don't know how to brown your meat or make a dark roux. Plus it add nothing as far as flavor. You might as well add food coloring.
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