re: FBD overcast sunday

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Pelican Umbrella IPA

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I've not had this one. Will look for it.

NBD-2014 edition. I think this is great and will check to see if I have another because it is drinking very well now. The spices have mellowed some but are still prominent. I may wait to next fall if I have another but no longer. I am a big fan of big thick stouts like this, I am so disappointed when I get an Impy stout and it is thin.

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Have you tried Space Cake? Easily a top IIPA

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I have not. Always questioned freshness. I've had Hoppy Feet (not a normal IPA) and Galactica (god awful malty mess).

I seriously cannot express how awful Galactica has been both times I've purchased it. Atrocious.

I will not buy a hoppy beer that doesn't have a date on it. If you don't put a bottling date or best by date where i can track the bottling date then you are a bad brewery in my eyes. In a perfect world all beer reps would require stores to pull their hoppy beers form shelves after 3 months or so.

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I will not buy a hoppy beer that doesn't have a date on it

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A-fricking-men. No date is SHAMEFUL in this day and age. Lazy Mag is still bad about dating. I haven't tasted a Timber Beast in at least a year, I'm guessing, because bottles just don't show up here with dates and we apparently don't get kegs anymore. When I first moved back to LA, that was my favorite regional beer. God damn shame.

As for Clown Shoes, Ride the Lion is a beer I'd never order as I generally find Wee Heavy's underwhelming. And HotH gets a yellow flag because it's "smoked." I find most smoked beers to be overwhelmingly smoky to the degree that they obscure all the other good things. Still sipping the Blaecorn

ETA @TheCoveBR, can you tell me about why the frick we don't get Timber Beast anymore? We used to have that shite all the time. Ticks me off. A nice DIPA with some rye kick is right up my alley.

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louisiana has old beer all over shelves everywhere

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It's not just there, it's a problem everywhere. I find 6 month old or older Dales all over up here. I hate having to decipher some of the different codes but if i like the beer fresh I will figure it out. If no code or date I will buy something else. I won't buy an ipa that is over 3 months old and I try to stay within 6 weeks of bottling.

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I won't buy an ipa that is over 3 months old

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Really? Interesting. We have had a lot of discussion about hop longevity here, but you're the first I've seen suggest a 3 month window. My ideal is sub-one month. If it's one I like and know holds up, 6 weeks. I honestly think I'd pass up 2 month old Pliny for 5 week old, say, Ghost.

Sorry. I just can't think of an appropriate analogy.

Timber Beast is still around... Just more of a touch and go thing with Lazy Mag. They focus on Mississippi where their support is resounding. Almost every restaurant you go to has fresh Lazy Mag small distro stuff on tap. Mostly along the gulf coast. Chandeleur is coming up in Biloxi real quick too. I'll have to ask Jacob about timber beast because we used to do casked stuff with Lazy Mag all the time. Their rep, Josh Boggs moved to Arkansas and left the company. That's probably why their distribution went to shite in LA.

shite.

You da man

It's nice to have a voice from the within the industry. That's a perspective we don't often get. I've heard of Chandeleur because Coater has posted it, but I've not had the pleasure yet. And if TB is still around, I hope LA sees some soon. I miss it. Good stuff.

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It's not just there, it's a problem everywhere.

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Truth. There are some brewers that don't put dates on their beers. I don't buy 'em if I don't know how old it is. I tend to drink draft most of the time, because of that.

If I buy a bottle, I go to a bottleshop where I know the person selling it to me, and they can tell me what's fresh (if there's not date on the bottle).