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Are hazy IPAs easier to make than traditional IPAs?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:05 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:05 pm
I remember a couple of years ago, nobody was making a decent IPA in the state of Louisiana. Then Parish comes out with Bloom/Opus Vert and all of the sudden we've got a whole lot of breweries making nice, hazy beers that never could produce a good traditional IPA before.
Back to my question - is it easier to make a decent hazy IPA than a traditional one?
A couple of months ago, I was talking to a brewer that has a small brewery that nobody has ever heard of before, and he said, "I have the only brewery in Portland that doesn't use any hops in any of our beers. Hops help brewers who don't know what they are doing cover up a lot of mistakes." I thought, "OK. Good luck with that..."
However, even though his beer tasted like dogshit (because he brews some weird stuff), he was probably right. Their are probably a lot of brewers that dump tons of hops into their beers and it covers up an average base beer.
Back to my question - is it easier to make a decent hazy IPA than a traditional one?
A couple of months ago, I was talking to a brewer that has a small brewery that nobody has ever heard of before, and he said, "I have the only brewery in Portland that doesn't use any hops in any of our beers. Hops help brewers who don't know what they are doing cover up a lot of mistakes." I thought, "OK. Good luck with that..."
However, even though his beer tasted like dogshit (because he brews some weird stuff), he was probably right. Their are probably a lot of brewers that dump tons of hops into their beers and it covers up an average base beer.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 3:06 pm
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Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:08 pm to Jax-Tiger
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A couple of months ago, I was talking to a brewer that has a small brewery that nobody has ever heard of before, and he said, "I have the only brewery in Portland that doesn't use any hops in any of our beers. Hops help brewers who don't know what they are doing cover up a lot of mistakes." I thought, "OK. Good luck with that..."
However, even though his beer tasted like dogshit (because he brews some weird stuff), he was probably right. Their are probably a lot of brewers that dump tons of hops into their beers and it covers up an average base beer.
None of this makes any sense to me.
Sounds like that guy is romanticizing a shitty beverage that isn't even really beer.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:10 pm to Jax-Tiger
Hazy IPAs aren't any easier or harder to make than traditional IPAs. There are just different ingredients and processes used in brewing a hazy IPA versus traditional. The turnaround can be a little quicker. Some old school brewers attribute the quick turnaround to laziness, but that's not really the case.
ETA: it's much easier to brew a hazy IPA than it is a pilsner or some other delicate beer.
ETA: it's much easier to brew a hazy IPA than it is a pilsner or some other delicate beer.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 3:12 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:10 pm to Jax-Tiger
Thought the yeast helped with the haze.
Maybe I am wrong. I am sure a homebrewer will chime in.
Maybe I am wrong. I am sure a homebrewer will chime in.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:13 pm to Jax-Tiger
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A couple of months ago, I was talking to a brewer that has a small brewery that nobody has ever heard of before, and he said, "I have the only brewery in Portland that doesn't use any hops in any of our beers. Hops help brewers who don't know what they are doing cover up a lot of mistakes." I thought, "OK. Good luck with that..."
gruits?
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:15 pm to GRTiger
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Sounds like that guy is romanticizing a shitty beverage that isn't even really beer.
He is a dude that marches to a different drummer. He makes some Belgian ales that are "different". He prides himself for brewing beers that nobody else brews. Maybe there is a reason nobody is brewing beers like that. He uses honey and ginger, and fruits to flavor his beers, instead of hops.
I looked up the brewery - it's called Ambacht.
ETA: I looked at his website, and it appears that he is using hops in his beers, now.
This post was edited on 5/19/17 at 3:19 pm
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:17 pm to BMoney
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ETA: it's much easier to brew a hazy IPA than it is a pilsner or some other delicate beer.
I think my question may have been worded wrong. Not easier with regards to the actual brewing process, but easier to produce a good beer that tastes good.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:33 pm to Jax-Tiger
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I think my question may have been worded wrong. Not easier with regards to the actual brewing process, but easier to produce a good beer that tastes good.
Any beer with bold flavors will be easier to make than a nuanced one. Add a bunch of coffee to an average stout and now it's great. Adding a bunch of late and dry hops will help mask any minor flaws with the beer. That said, you can't make a bad beer good by adding adjuncts or a bunch of hops.
Posted on 5/19/17 at 3:41 pm to BMoney
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you can't make a bad beer good by adding adjuncts or a bunch of hops.
Agree. You can make a good beer better, but you can't cover up off flavors with hops. The fundamentals have to be there.
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