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re: Anyone here make a paella?
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:28 am to Btrtigerfan
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:28 am to Btrtigerfan
Instead of the Chopped Challenge on the F&DB, I think every couple of months we should choose a dish and everybody posts pics of their version of it. Not a contest, just a group of people showing how their dish turned out. With a two week window of time to post their pics in the same thread.
Paella might be a good one to do.
Paella might be a good one to do.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:16 am to Darla Hood
Here's a great site for getting started with paella.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 11:22 am to Btrtigerfan
Went to an event with
Chaine des Rotisseurs
where an authentic Paella was made by a local orthopedic surgeon with Spanish heritage. I have a few pics of it that I would like to post, but I haven't figured out the latest iphoto update.
I really enjoyed the paella and found it better than any jambalaya I've ever eaten.
Chaine des Rotisseurs
where an authentic Paella was made by a local orthopedic surgeon with Spanish heritage. I have a few pics of it that I would like to post, but I haven't figured out the latest iphoto update.
I really enjoyed the paella and found it better than any jambalaya I've ever eaten.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:44 pm to Btrtigerfan
UuPaella pan: John Deere disk plow blade about 36 in., not in front of me so didn't measure exactly serves well. Plug central hole with a steel bolt and grind down smooth. Smear with bacon grease and cured 24 hours in neighbor's smoke house. Just like curing cast iron pot. lid: next size down John Deere disk about 34 in. With u shaped rod welded on for handle. Beau coup heavy so need wide base and burner, must be stable. Basic crawfish boiler setup will work but with low pressure regulator instead of high pressure.
Mandatory ingredients:
Trinity
Mussels
Chaurice or chorizo or smoked sausage
Pork chopsticks
Shrimp or prawns, large, head on.
Short grain rice
Artichoke hearts and bottoms-canned won't work and can't get young ones fresh in La so must use frozen which are hard to find.
Green peas, plump, not petit pois, frozen, added at end.
Here's the downer: no substitute for fresh juicy saffron. Progress Grocery on Decatur in Nola used to sell it from a metal ornate box for a quarter for a 3 finger pinch. Very gummy and strong, and to extract flavor and color poach for 15 min in sherry or dry vermouth. Iirc, Central Groc had it also. The Canadian or Mexican versions sold in herb specialty shops is dried out and worthless, just amounts to food coloring and won't taste like paella. The stuff in jars in supermarkets is garbage, tastes like shredded paper so don't use. Don't know if Central Groc still can get it but 75 c worth probably cost over $100 in today's dollars. So to get fresh, not dried saffron, cheaper to make a flight to Spain buy a cigar box full and use sparingly for 30 years. Without it you can make a pretty good version of jambalaya in the John Deere Cajun wok. If anybody knows a shop in USA that sells it I'd love to know about it.
I guess paella and bouillabaisse might be going the way of brains, sweetbreads, red boudin, creole cream cheese, coffee made in a gregge, and the other great foods that are now not easy to find on a regular basis.
Mandatory ingredients:
Trinity
Mussels
Chaurice or chorizo or smoked sausage
Pork chopsticks
Shrimp or prawns, large, head on.
Short grain rice
Artichoke hearts and bottoms-canned won't work and can't get young ones fresh in La so must use frozen which are hard to find.
Green peas, plump, not petit pois, frozen, added at end.
Here's the downer: no substitute for fresh juicy saffron. Progress Grocery on Decatur in Nola used to sell it from a metal ornate box for a quarter for a 3 finger pinch. Very gummy and strong, and to extract flavor and color poach for 15 min in sherry or dry vermouth. Iirc, Central Groc had it also. The Canadian or Mexican versions sold in herb specialty shops is dried out and worthless, just amounts to food coloring and won't taste like paella. The stuff in jars in supermarkets is garbage, tastes like shredded paper so don't use. Don't know if Central Groc still can get it but 75 c worth probably cost over $100 in today's dollars. So to get fresh, not dried saffron, cheaper to make a flight to Spain buy a cigar box full and use sparingly for 30 years. Without it you can make a pretty good version of jambalaya in the John Deere Cajun wok. If anybody knows a shop in USA that sells it I'd love to know about it.
I guess paella and bouillabaisse might be going the way of brains, sweetbreads, red boudin, creole cream cheese, coffee made in a gregge, and the other great foods that are now not easy to find on a regular basis.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:50 pm to CajunPhil
Is there anywhere to get it around New Orleans?
Is it possible to grow it?
Is it possible to grow it?
Posted on 8/2/15 at 5:56 pm to CajunPhil
Penzey's sells three different saffrons, but is currently out of stock of one of them. I wonder if any of those might be palatable.
Penzey's Spanish Coupe Grade Saffron
Penzey's Spanish Coupe Grade Saffron
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:08 pm to Darla Hood
I like Penzies, but Amazon had the best variety.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:14 pm to CajunPhil
quote:
Here's the downer: no substitute for fresh juicy saffron. Progress Grocery on Decatur in Nola used to sell it from a metal ornate box for a quarter for a 3 finger pinch. Very gummy and strong, and to extract flavor and color poach for 15 min in sherry or dry vermouth. Iirc, Central Groc had it also. The Canadian or Mexican versions sold in herb specialty shops is dried out and worthless, just amounts to food coloring and won't taste like paella. The stuff in jars in supermarkets is garbage, tastes like shredded paper so don't use. Don't know if Central Groc still can get it but 75 c worth probably cost over $100 in today's dollars. So to get fresh, not dried saffron, cheaper to make a flight to Spain buy a cigar box full and use sparingly for 30 years. Without it you can make a pretty good version of jambalaya in the John Deere Cajun wok. If anybody knows a shop in USA that sells it I'd love to know about it.
Coupe Grade Spanish Saffron
Haven't bought any saffron from here but everything I have purchased has been high quality.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:20 pm to Btrtigerfan
quote:
Sounds like what I like in a jambalaya.
New Orleanians have been passing off paella as jambalaya for years. They even add the tomato sauce or ketchup.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 6:21 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:54 pm to fightin tigers
As I understand it, only the pristine saffron costs an arm and a leg. The premium stuff is hand picked down to nothing but saffron.
The cheaper stuff is still saffron, just with a few random leaves, twigs and stuff with it. You're paying for the purity, which may not make that much difference in the final dish.
BTW, I got some for just a few bucks at the International Market just off Cleary between Vets and I-10.
I do want to try paella, but I am pretty apprehensive cooking rice without a cover. They do up the liquid-to-rice ratio to 3-1 to account for more evaporation though, so maybe it will work.
The cheaper stuff is still saffron, just with a few random leaves, twigs and stuff with it. You're paying for the purity, which may not make that much difference in the final dish.
BTW, I got some for just a few bucks at the International Market just off Cleary between Vets and I-10.
I do want to try paella, but I am pretty apprehensive cooking rice without a cover. They do up the liquid-to-rice ratio to 3-1 to account for more evaporation though, so maybe it will work.
quote:Careful. Are you even sure jambalaya didn't originate in New Orleans?
New Orleanians have been passing off paella as jambalaya for years. They even add the tomato sauce or ketchup.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 7:02 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 6:59 pm to Vdrine
How much paella can ya make with 1 g?
Posted on 8/2/15 at 7:01 pm to Btrtigerfan
you know what the secret ingredient in Cococnut Pete's Pealla is?
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:13 pm to Stadium Rat
Totally different style of rice than what you would use in a jambalaya. Its more a risotto than anything, just with less stirring. It blows jambalaya out the water, IMHO
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:33 pm to BRgetthenet
quote:
How much paella can ya make with 1 g?
CNN Money
quote:
At the Spice House in Chicago, owners Tom and Patty Erd sell a gram of superior grade saffron for $6.79, and an even finer version, known as coupé grade, for $8.29.
Saffron, which Patty Erd calls "a classic," has been a key ingredient in cuisines since ancient times, and it is commonly used to make risotto, bouillabaisse and paella. Fortunately, a little saffron goes a long way and most recipes call for just a pinch.
"There are 200 to 300 threads per gram, and you only need a few threads at a time," Erd says. "You use it so sparingly that in the long run it's not much more expensive than any other spice."
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:39 pm to Btrtigerfan
I've had this before but in Mexico. Really good.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 8:41 pm to Stadium Rat
quote:
Are you even sure jambalaya didn't originate in New Orleans?
Without a doubt, jambalaya did not start in New Orleans. It wouldn't surprise me to hear someone say it originated there, they are pretty self righteous.
Posted on 8/2/15 at 9:52 pm to fightin tigers
Im a very self righteous New Orleanian, and I can guarantee you jambalaya is not from New Orleans. We made much better food than that.
This post was edited on 8/2/15 at 9:53 pm
Posted on 8/2/15 at 10:16 pm to BlackenedOut
quote:
BlackenedOut
Without a doubt, New Orleans is home to the best French Bread, France excluded.
I always grab a couple loaves on my way out.
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