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Where did the Andre Ellington hype come from?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:09 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:09 pm
Why is he being ranked as a top 15 back on most sites? I haven't watched much on the Cardinals lately but did he come on strong at the end of the season or something? I'm very curious as to why he's going so highly in a lot of drafts.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:11 pm to xxKylexx
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Why Ellington Can Be a Top-5 RB
You can’t beat elite athleticism and explosiveness. Unless you’re also versatile with soft hands and an NFL track record that already boasts a gaudy 5.5 yards per carry on 118 career totes. Ellington may be made in a small package, but this league has seen plenty of small backs prove critics wrong. If Ellington bulked up as reported and didn’t lose his trademark burst, there’s little reason to hate on him.
What makes Ellington even more interesting is that his offense needs him and it sounds like the Cardinals want to get the ball in his hands early and often. With just three career games with less than a 4.0 yards per carry average, it seems like getting the ball into his hands as much as possible is a pretty good idea.
Ellington also brings added value as a legit PPR threat and should be a yardage fiend. He might have an issue with Jonathan Dwyer stealing some touchdowns near the goal-line, but the overall production should survive that. LeSean McCoy and Jamaal Charles are both under six feet tall and less than 2010 pounds - just like Ellington. They finished first and second among running backs in fantasy football last year. Enough said.
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Just how valuable can Ellington be in 2014? One thing that’s important to note is he has essentially no risk of losing his job out of camp, as Jonathan Dwyer and Stepfan Taylor are far from the talent that Ellington is. Realistically, he should be getting all the meaningful touches out of the backfield for Arizona, with only physical factors limiting him.
That last part is what worries people about Ellington: he’s small. That is one of the main reasons Howell highlighted as to why he won’t be a 400-plus touch player in 2014. Earlier, however, I stated that this really doesn’t matter, and I’ll explain what I meant by that now.
Let’s just assume Ellington doesn’t get close to the 25 to 30 touch per game mark that Arians stated he’ll receive. Let’s say, hypothetically, that he averages 15 touches per game, a slight increase over the 13.6 he was receiving per game over the last half of the 2013 season. If he averages the same 0.71 points per touch while receiving 15 touches a game, he’ll average 10.65 points a week. Over the season, that translates to 170.4 points, or a running back finish of 15th if we’re going by last year's running back points.
I like to think of that as somewhat of a middle ground for an Ellington projection, as it assumes two important things. First, it assumes he doesn’t improve upon his efficiency in his second year. Second, it projects a very modest increase in touches, a far cry from the volume Arians is claiming he will receive. While I don’t think he’ll score much better on a per touch basis than he did as a rookie, I do believe he’ll end up closer to 18 to 20 touches per game. The jump in points that comes with him seeing 18 touches a game is drastic, as using the same 0.71 points per touch, we’re now looking at Ellington as a 204.48-point player. That would make him a top-10 running back.
This isn’t a perfect way to evaluate Ellington’s 2014 value, as there are a range of outcomes that could occur with both his touches and points per touch, but it does help show that he doesn’t need gaudy touch figures to be a great fantasy asset. While his size will likely prevent him from being a true workhorse, he can still finish as an RB1 without the massive workload.
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Andre Ellington could be the next Jamaal Charles. Both players share a versatile skill set that can be weaponized all over the field, and their teams each view them as the centerpiece of their respective offenses. While it may be another season before Ellington is able to put all the pieces together and tout elite running back fantasy numbers, the upside and opportunity for success are apparent.
Ellington totaled over 1,000 yards of offense and four touchdowns in his rookie year when he averaged less than 10 touches per game and ran behind a putrid offensive line. It is not unreasonable to suggest that his production could double in 2014—a total that would position him among the top backs in fantasy.
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 2:17 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:12 pm to xxKylexx
He has the opportunity to succeed. His tiny frame will have to hold up though
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:13 pm to CE Tiger
Pretty much this ^ (2 posts above)
Who you going to take in that same area that has a chance to get you more points?
Who you going to take in that same area that has a chance to get you more points?
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 2:14 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:18 pm to xxKylexx
I'm all in on Ellington.
All. In.
All. In.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:21 pm to CBandits82
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I'm all in on Ellington.
All. In.
All Hail the Red Jesus
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:28 pm to CE Tiger
I want him in every league I'm in.
Every. Single. One.
Look at that cut. Are you kidding me?
Every. Single. One.
Look at that cut. Are you kidding me?
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:29 pm to CE Tiger
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All Hail the Red Jesus
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:30 pm to CE Tiger
Just like you could not miss last year with Lamar Miller and David Wilson.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:33 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Just like you could not miss last year with Lamar Miller and David Wilson.
Ellington will be a first rounder in PPR next year.
First. Round. Pick.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:34 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
Shut up and go back to your epl draft. This thread is for full on unadulterated AE hype.
All aboard the AE hype train... Choo Choo!
All aboard the AE hype train... Choo Choo!
This post was edited on 8/6/14 at 2:34 pm
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:39 pm to Vicks Kennel Club
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Just like you could not miss last year with Lamar Miller and David Wilson.
B.I.N.G.O. and Bingo was his name oh.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:39 pm to Honkus
Blazing speed.................check
Catches passes...............check
Can hit the hole with wreckless abaondon.....check
Can cut like a fricking boss.....check
ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Catches passes...............check
Can hit the hole with wreckless abaondon.....check
Can cut like a fricking boss.....check
ALL ABOARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:42 pm to CE Tiger
I'm not a huge fan. He'll have to catch 70 balls to be top 10
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:43 pm to Honkus
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Louis Riddick ?@LRiddickESPN Jul 30
I remember being told by those who would know (while scouting A. Ellington in fall/spring of '12/'13) that Andre was better RB than Spiller.
^ High praise
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All NFL Access ?@AllNFLAccess 18h
Andre Ellington gained at least 20 yards on 6.8% of his carries last season compared to C.J. Spiller (4.5%) and Jamaal Charles (3.3%)
^ Big play ability
I like Ellington and where people are getting him at. I'd be wary if he was my RB1 but I love him as an RB2. I like him better than Gio Bernard, who is going about 12 spots ahead of Ellington.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:45 pm to GynoSandberg
He is the best RB2 you can have with massive upside in PPR.
I love where he is going right now, just hope he doesn't do something in a preseason game to make his ADP climb.
I love where he is going right now, just hope he doesn't do something in a preseason game to make his ADP climb.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:50 pm to CBandits82
You have a serious man crush.
I'd consider him somewhere in the third, but I'd probably pass. I don't think he'll go before the 4th round in any of my leagues unless he blows up this preseason.
I'd consider him somewhere in the third, but I'd probably pass. I don't think he'll go before the 4th round in any of my leagues unless he blows up this preseason.
Posted on 8/6/14 at 2:53 pm to papz
Im with you. I think he will do well but he isn't the type of guy I would probably pick up. Though I recognize the talent and upside.
He gets to bang against SF, SEA, and STL 2x each, as well. He could either get fricked up, or he will catch a ton of dump offs when noodle arm Palmer can't complete a ball downfield
He gets to bang against SF, SEA, and STL 2x each, as well. He could either get fricked up, or he will catch a ton of dump offs when noodle arm Palmer can't complete a ball downfield
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