re: TBDL season Long Thread

I was putting Hughes back into the pool for Grilli. I wasn't using Lyons' start, picking Grilli back up, and dropping Lyons.

It shouldn't make any difference whether it was 10 seconds after the drop happened or 10 seconds before Grilli cleared waivers as long as my starting lineups weren't manipulated and it resulted in dropping Hughes for Lyons.

What other possible intent could have been present? I think the intent is patently clear. I'm not asking for starting lineup/stat changes. If you want to take the position that any add/drop or trade accept is final even if an obvious accident, fine.

I didn't benefit from any Hughes stats that wouldn't have been there if he were on FA.

what if the player you dropped had been kelly johnson? and you wanted him back after a day.

is the intent any different?

No way he meant to intentionally drop Grilli, but I thought it was weird he waited a day to mention it.

I don't think there is one, but I think anything more than an immediate response (10 or so minutes) leaves you open to the droppers' remorse dilemma.

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Johnson is far less valuable than Grilli so it's not really a comparable situation.

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right, but the intent is the same, if it was an accident.

Only you personally know your intent, but the same situation featuring different players can be misinterpreted by the league.

Kelly Johnson being a lesser player is exactly my point. Grilli prob was an accident, but you can't really look at it from a player by player perspective. There has to be a uniformed rule, which is hard, because players have different values.

You have 2 options: league uses common sense or make the rule that no one can be re-added... Either of the two I'm fine with as long as it's used across the board for all owners. Grilli falls in the common sense he shouldn't have been dropped category. Earl and I were discussing a deal where he was sending me an early pick for Grilli, so I think it may be more consensus than you're thinking that Grilli is an obviously ownable player unlike Kelly Johnson.

Because I added Lyons, set my lineup, and didn't check it again until the next day.

The only way it would be obvious is if dropping someone left an empty spot in your starting lineup or if you check the league homepage after making the add/drop, which I didn't do.

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I'm assuming you also aren't playing Grilli over Jansen or Betances when they have CL gigs, so that leaves 1 CL spot open. McGee had just gotten 2 saves in days leading up to that day & he posts elite ERA + WHIP + K/9, plus I have Uehara posting good #s.

If you want to make the rule that any wrongful drop that isn't made known within the 10-15 min window after it happens becomes a legitimate drop so be it, but trying to find logic in someone dropping what was a top 12 CL who still had their job doesn't make much sense. Grilli had posted 8 straight scoreless outings with good WHIP + K/9 stats prior to dropping him, so idk where this notion I was potentially dropping him because he was getting beat around the yard is coming from.

& I was dropping Hughes because I have enough SP to float 2 playoff teams. I need shitty bench bats even if they're shitty.