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re: So what did we learn this season ?

Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:17 pm to
Posted by tzimme4
Metairie
Member since Jan 2008
28363 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:17 pm to
I won my championship with Palmer, McCoy (Damn you), Ingram, Kelley, Evans and Pats Def all who I drafted.
This post was edited on 1/5/17 at 9:19 pm
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 9:36 pm to
Much more gratifying to win with guys you drafted IMO.
Posted by John McClane
Member since Apr 2010
36666 posts
Posted on 1/5/17 at 11:02 pm to
I had Reed and Gronk. Still managed a runner up finish ($400)
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 8:03 am to
quote:

Of course you can make a sick draft and avoid injury and win, but usually you that is not the case and you are going to have to work the wire.


I agree that it's out of the ordinary and that other poster is full of shite acting like it happens all the time. You have to get lucky with some picks and get VERY lucky to have all of your players avoid injury.

I've won once with all my starters being drafted, except for my kicker, and it was because I took some fliers that really panned out and got lucky with injuries. Other than that one year, the WW has been crucial.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 8:10 am
Posted by bleeng
The Woodlands
Member since Apr 2013
4061 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:08 am to
Normally the case but our league champ had zero waiver wire transactions this year.
Posted by BilJ
Member since Sep 2003
158722 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:12 am to
eh WW is still necessary even when you nail your draft, it never hurts to have some trade fodder. Being a week or two ahead of people on acquisitions is always nice
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/6/17 at 11:14 am to
IMO the less you use the WW the better player you are. IF you ace the draft and win the league without major moves much kudos to ya. Truth be told it doesn't take much skill to add the hi-powered offense backup RB when the starter goes down.

IMO the chances of you adding the right person on the waiver wire is somewhat inversely related to how well you have drafted. The guy with 6 busts on his roster is picking up every WW player who may have an impact. Chances are he hits on someone. Meanwhile if you drafted a stud team you don't have a lot of roster spots available to add some of these more speculative kinda players. So the chances of hitting on a WW all things being equal is not as good.
This post was edited on 1/6/17 at 11:15 am
Posted by BOSCEAUX
Where the Down Boys go.
Member since Mar 2008
47715 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 8:46 am to
The only reason I won my league was picking up Howard off waivers. Outside of Freeman my drafted backs were shite and CJ Anderson went down.
Posted by RB10
Member since Nov 2010
43789 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 11:15 am to
quote:

IMO the less you use the WW the better player you are.


Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:08 pm to
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IMO the less you use the WW the better player you are.


This statement is ridiculous. Every year there are multiple WW guys that turn into studs, not to mention payers getting injured, etc. that force you to go into the WW. Making a blanket statement like this is absurd.
Posted by Byron Bojangles III
Member since Nov 2012
51616 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:19 pm to
You're slowly turning into zimme
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:33 pm to
Would love to hear reasoning for this. I've got 5x as many trophies in my case as zimmer, at a minimum. Probably more like 10x tbh

FACT:

If you draft a good roster you won't be hitting the waiver wire as hard as the guy who drafts 5 busts. You ain't gonna be dropping studs for the waiver wire add of the week. Logic tells you that the guy who drafts the worse team is more likely to hit on a WW guy because his roster has more droppable players. Pretty easy to see from there that usually the guys relying on the waiver wire players are your weaker players, and the guys that draft stud teams lean on the guys they drafted..or traded for...
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 2:54 pm to
FWIW, making this statement:

quote:

I've got 5x as many trophies in my case as zimmer, at a minimum. Probably more like 10x tbh


sort of proves Byron's point.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 3:15 pm to
Hey it is what it is. you got posters here who have won one or two titles in their life posting in the same threads as people who have been winning titles yearly for over a decade. It'd be nice to know who's who.
Posted by Tigereye10005
New York, NY
Member since Sep 2016
1592 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 3:30 pm to
Fair enough. To get back on the point though, I think circumstances determine whether a lot of WW moves are needed. If one of your studs gets injured early, you are likely going to be adding/dropping players more regularly until you find someone that you can start consistently. Or maybe you drafted great but used the streaming QB strategy, so you are probably adding/dropping QBs with relative frequency. Also, if you're not adding/dropping Defenses with some regularity, you're probably not keeping up with matchups the way you should be, and are missing out on opportunities.

The point is, there are plenty of valid reasons to be active on the WW even if you drafted great. Sure, there are situations that work out to where you draft a good team and basically don't have to make a move all year, but that is chalked up more to being lucky than good.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 3:35 pm to
quote:

Sure, there are situations that work out to where you draft a good team and basically don't have to make a move all year, but that is chalked up more to being lucky than good.

No that is the very definition of being good. Drafting a team that is good enough to win a title on draft day is what makes you elite.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
29-24 #BlewDat
Member since Dec 2010
31061 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 6:55 pm to
We don't know your opponents baw.

In the one common league we have played for a few years now, you are yet to pick up a title.
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
278157 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:41 pm to
werent you the bubba that used all his FAAB money in TDFL
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:53 pm to
I probably did. That was a very poor season for me. I wouldn't be too proud of a title year that I Spent all my WW money TBH.
Posted by Boomshockalocka
Member since Feb 2004
59689 posts
Posted on 1/9/17 at 7:55 pm to
I really haven't seen too much difference in the competitiveness of the leagues I've been in. All leagues of similar size have the same player pool, same FA adds each week, people following a lot of the same Twitter accts, etc.
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