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re: SBL 2013 Spring Training (Keepers 3/17, Slow Draft to follow)

Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:34 am to
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:34 am to
I don't think half of rondos team is keepers. Doesn't mean they should be given away to someone.

i don't care who the player is, just the principal of it happening. There's no gamesmanship from either side. You get a player for nothing and he gets nothing for it. If you're happy with getting a free player and vkc is happy with getting nothing then by all means go for it. Just thought I wouldn't see something like that with you guys.
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:42 am to
Put it up for a vote. There's obviously people who think its crooked, and I wouldn't want my ethics coming into question...
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 11:43 am to
Not going to veto stupidity.

Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:13 pm to
I didn't question your ethics. I already said I know y'all had no ill intentions with it. I did say it was borderline collusion, keyword borderline, because that deal would be questioned in the regular season.

And I don't care about voting. I just wanted to cut off the hunky dory gee golly ill give you a player for free bullshite before it becomes a common occurrence. Rondo was already licking his chops
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:18 pm to
I am sorry that you disagreed with the principle of it, and I will not do it again.

I made an offer to everyone that if they wanted Beachy or Perez (who I do not view as keepers), then to send me a pick for them.

I basically treated it like one of these pay what you want restaurants. I told Lou to offer me whatever and I would accept it. We did exactly that.

My logic was that I was moved up around 40 spots with this pick even if it was on the tail end of the draft. I was losing nothing. To me, a trade should benefit both sides. I think it achieved that end. Furthermore, now Youkilis will probably be entered back into the draft (who I like a lot more than Perez) and I can maybe attempt to draft him.

If you guys see it as bullshite or whatever, then I think the other 12 owners (not Lou or I) should handle the situation. FWIW, I am fine with what I got in the trade and personally do not see it as collusion, but it is totally up to you.
Posted by Vicks Kennel Club
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Member since Dec 2010
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:19 pm to
quote:

because that deal would be questioned in the regular season.

I would not do that in the regular season FWIW. I am not sure if that makes a difference in your opinion.
Posted by Louie T
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:23 pm to
You really hate rondo's team
Posted by Toula
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 12:59 pm to
The reason it appears to be "borderline collusion" is because its the closest thing to you actually dropping a guy you aren't keeping and Louie picking him up in the FA pool to keep.

This is essentially just a welfare trade.
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:02 pm to
Lol TBM questioning offseason trades like inseason trades. Color me surprised.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:30 pm to
Stop bagging on my team!
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 1/19/13 at 1:55 pm to
[quote]The reason it appears to be "borderline collusion" is because its the closest thing to you actually dropping a guy you aren't keeping and Louie picking him up in the FA pool to keep. This is essentially just a welfare trade. [/quote

Yeah that's what I'm saying.

It's all good, I just don't think that should become a common practice in the league. I have guys like Swisher Stubbs Willingham etc that I want to get rid of but I'm not going to give them away to a competitor
Posted by Lester Earl
Member since Nov 2003
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 2:20 am to
quote:

Lol TBM questioning offseason trades like inseason trades. Color me surprised.



let me know when you find your chin
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 7:50 am to
Tbm have so much anger these days
Posted by rmc
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 8:10 am to
quote:

let me know when you find your chin


That probably sounded a lot funnier in your head.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 10:59 am to
I know....wouldn't the joke be that you have several chins?
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:03 pm to
Sup with you and ricks antagonizing behavior? We don't need that in this league man
Posted by cwill
Member since Jan 2005
54752 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:05 pm to
If they keep it up will you quit this league too?
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:16 pm to
you keep bagging on my team and it hurts


It really hurts
Posted by Louie T
htx
Member since Dec 2006
36300 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:23 pm to
Everyone is so tightly wound up. Maybe an IRL isn't the best idea

I don't want to see chowds beat the frick outta y'all
Posted by GynoSandberg
Member since Jan 2006
71934 posts
Posted on 1/20/13 at 12:24 pm to
Sure, I have no qualms about walking away from this league. I don't need this type of bullying in my life
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