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I tried to trade Gordon for Julio...

Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:02 pm
Posted by 1ManWolfPack
Member since Sep 2013
621 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:02 pm
actually, Julio was offered to me. And the league Vetoed it. I had also just made a trade for Mccoy, giving up Edelman & Vereen.

Do you guys think the league was right in vetoing the trade??? I'm in 7th, top 6 get in playoffs.
Posted by Pnels08
Member since Jul 2014
9179 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:03 pm to
No
Posted by Duke
Twin Lakes, CO
Member since Jan 2008
35606 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:04 pm to
The only reason to ever veto is obvious collusion. So no.
Posted by Nonetheless
Luka doncic = goat
Member since Jan 2012
33000 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:08 pm to
No
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:26 pm to
quote:

Do you guys think the league was right in vetoing the trade?

there are a lot of different opinions on trade vetoing. im still not sure where i stand, so i guess i just view it case by case.

if i was in your league and someone tried that trade, i would be fricking pissed. it makes no sense to make that trade now. you are getting julio for free for 2 weeks. i would not allow that trade to go through until at least gordon was confirmed back and playing. even then i would think it was an awful trade, but wouldnt have much to bitch about.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
bullshite veto. Not collusion and not obviously horribly uneven. That isn't a league that I would stay in for next year if that stands.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:29 pm to
quote:

it makes no sense to make that trade now.
It makes sense to me. OP needs to win now and Gordon can't do that for him. Julio will contribute. Other owner is not confident in Julio and is betting that Gordon is going to come back and dominate.

Have you seen Julio's stats the past 5 weeks? Since his big game against TB: 8.2, 10.5, 6.8, 5.6, 5.8. Falcons are having problems.
quote:

i would not allow that trade to go through until at least gordon was confirmed back and playing. even then i would think it was an awful trade, but wouldnt have much to bitch about.
Chicken shite.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 1:36 pm
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:30 pm to
FWIW, when I trade, I usually throw in an extra ok player. So like Gordon/rb3-4 for Julio/rb3-4... or something like that. I've found leagues more likely to veto 1 for 1 trades... idk. just my experience
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:32 pm to
All of that is based off of your opinion of the trade. You could easily be wrong, and the trade could easily end up working out for both people. You would have no right to be pissed about that trade. It is an abuse of the veto function to try to run other people's teams by vetoing them.
Posted by wrlakers
Member since Sep 2007
5745 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:37 pm to
quote:

actually, Julio was offered to me. And the league Vetoed it.
quote:

Do you guys think the league was right in vetoing the trade??? I'm in 7th, top 6 get in playoffs.


There are two possibilities here. One, you're not giving us the whole story. Why would this trade be vetoed? Maybe if the team offering you Julio is 1-8 and has no other WRs and is owned by your significant other. Second option, your league is populated by haters.
Posted by rockchlkjayhku11
Cincinnati, OH
Member since Aug 2006
36449 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:39 pm to
quote:

All of that is based off of your opinion of the trade. You could easily be wrong, and the trade could easily end up working out for both people. You would have no right to be pissed about that trade. It is an abuse of the veto function to try to run other people's teams by vetoing them

he is giving OP a top 15 WR for absolutely nothing for 2 weeks. that sounds like collusion to me. if im in the league, that's my argument.

how are you going to prove collusion ever? if they offered this trade 2 weeks ago, is it collusion? 3 weeks ago? when is it getting vetoed?
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 1:41 pm
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26975 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:39 pm to
No collusion, no veto.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:41 pm to
quote:

he is giving OP a top 15 WR for absolutely nothing for 2 weeks. that sounds like collusion to me. if im in the league, that's my argument.


Not even close. Boom already gave the reason why that trade might be a good idea depending on their situations and their views. Your position is based solely off the idea that you think you know better than everyone else. You don't. Your position is chicken shite.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:42 pm to
He is selling on the Falcons shitty offense and betting on Gordon for the latter part of the season.

ETA: Not even remotely close to looking like collusion.
This post was edited on 11/7/14 at 1:43 pm
Posted by 1ManWolfPack
Member since Sep 2013
621 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:42 pm to
I didn't want to give to much info to cloud up the question...

Julio owner is in first and has Evans to fill roster spot until Gordon comes in at week 12...he is taking the risk and playing for the playoffs and winning it all!

Me, Gordon owner is needing to win NOW to get into the playoffs and am taking a somewhat risk on Julio in returning to form. I only did both of these trades knowing I had my butt covered...Mccoy to replace Vereen, and Julio to replace edelman...now I have a huge void for 1 week until Allen comes off his bye and Gordon in week 12.

Yeh, I'm pissed.
Posted by boom roasted
Member since Sep 2010
28039 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:43 pm to
quote:

Julio owner is in first
This is what I figured. He wants to offload Julio and get Gordon for the home stretch.
Posted by Peazey
Metry
Member since Apr 2012
25418 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:44 pm to
quote:

he is giving OP a top 15 WR for absolutely nothing for 2 weeks


He is offering a good wr on a team with a failing offensive line that might have difficulty passing the ball for a wr who has proven to be one of the best players in the game in the past who might be getting hot just in time for the playoffs. The trade off is that the team that is getting gordon is setting up to try to win in the playoffs, and the team getting Julio is trying to win now.

And it doesn't even matter if you disagree with all of this. The fact that things could be seen like this proves that there is a valid reason to make the trade, and it is their right to run their own teams how they think is for the best.
Posted by Joshjrn
Baton Rouge
Member since Dec 2008
26975 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:45 pm to
Feel free to link this thread to your league so we can call them a bunch of pussies.
Posted by 1ManWolfPack
Member since Sep 2013
621 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:45 pm to
also, today was our trade deadline!
Posted by TaderSalad
mudbug territory
Member since Jul 2014
24625 posts
Posted on 11/7/14 at 1:47 pm to
quote:

This is what I figured. He wants to offload Julio and get Gordon for the home stretch.


Nobody wants to face him in the final... wrong to veto IMO
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