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Good time to pick up Starling Marte?

Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:37 pm
Posted by CaptainColeSlaw
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 12:37 pm
I know it's not for a while, but when in his suspension is it a good time to pick him back up? I know it is still a little early in the 80 day suspension period, but I want to snag him before anyone else in my league does since I basically wasted a draft pick on him thus far.
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 1:03 pm to
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but I want to snag him before anyone else in my league does



then add him today


keep waiting and you will miss out
Posted by VinegarStrokes
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:19 pm to
I would wait until he's worth about 150 ether before buying him up.
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 2:43 pm to
Out of curiosity, who would you be dropping to pick him up?
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:03 pm to
Reddfigg what if I told you marte is overrated
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:33 pm to
I would listen to your argument.

Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:42 pm to
i shouldnt say overrated, more along the lines of over drafted as a supposed 20 HR hitter. He's essentially adam eaton
Posted by rondo
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 3:55 pm to
Except Marte will play again this year
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 4:05 pm to
ok
Posted by reddman
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 4:08 pm to
Marte has potential to hit 20 homers though. Problem is that he's approaching that point in his career where he will stop stealing as much. And thats really where his true value lies.
Posted by DallasTiger45
Member since May 2012
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 4:19 pm to
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i shouldnt say overrated, more along the lines of over drafted as a supposed 20 HR hitter. He's essentially adam eaton



Except he's stolen 30 bases in every full season, while Eaton has never stolen 20 in a season. That's a big difference.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 4:30 pm to
"essentially"


he's been drafted in 1st and 2nd rd since his 2015 season, and he's not that guy, power wise.
Posted by DallasTiger45
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 5:16 pm to
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"essentially"


Then I guess you don't know what that word means. Last year Marte finished as the 5th best outfielder and 25th best player overall, per ESPN's player rater. Adam Eaton was 27th and 103rd. Players multiple tiers apart are not essentially the same player.

quote:

he's been drafted in 1st and 2nd rd since his 2015 season, and he's not that guy, power wise.



He went 29th in ESPN leagues last year and finished 25th while hitting 9 HRs.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 5:51 pm to
And Billy Hamilton was the 15th best OF per ESPN player rater

Do you know how the player rater works?

Runs 1.08
HR -.59
RBI -.52
SB 7.20
AVG .06

He's a 7.23 player on ESPN player rater - 7.20 comes from SB

Marte

Runs 1.14
HR -.01
RBI .39
SB 5.73
AVG 2.41

He was a 9.67 player

Eaton

Runs 1.78
HR .47
RBI .8
SB 1.32
AVG 1.44

Eaton was a 5.97, not a net negative anywhere and contributed across the board. Balanced.

with Marte's enormous SB boost, he's 3.7 better than eaton ETA: I was looking at the wrong player earlier for Marte's final tally - point still stands

Digest the numbers - the player rater isn't telling you the whole story. Overvaluing steals is a fools game. The guy hasn't been drafted 1st and 2nd rd bc he steals bags, he's drafted there bc people are chasing 20 bombs
This post was edited on 5/25/17 at 6:35 pm
Posted by cwill
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:33 pm to
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He's essentially adam eaton


Way more steals.
Posted by GynoSandberg
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Posted on 5/25/17 at 6:44 pm to
I know, I wouldve said "he's adam eaton", but he steals a lot of bags, so he became "essentially adam eaton". Main point is he's overrated based on the assumption that he will hit for power
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