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Going non RB in 1st. Bad move?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:30 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:30 pm
I don't see how you do unless you have the 11/12 pick and a CJ Anderson/J Hill is on the board.
So few top RBs and so deep at WR this year
So few top RBs and so deep at WR this year
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Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:41 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
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So few top RBs
False
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:43 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
I play in a 6 pt passing TD league. As of right now I'm planning on picking Luck with my first pick. Just have to get lucky with rb's.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:46 pm to Peazey
There are ways to scrounge for rb. If you don't do it at that position then you're doing it somewhere else. I find that you have to balance as much of a sure thing as you can find with positional value in the first round. If you feel like you're taking a bit of a risk because you feel like you have to get a rb then it's time to look elsewhere in the first. A busted first pick makes your year a lot more difficult.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 5:49 pm to Peazey
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I play in a 6 pt passing TD league. As of right now I'm planning on picking Luck with my first pick. Just have to get lucky with rb's.
I do too and I'm waiting as always
Drafting at 11/12 you can get Calvin/Odell and in 3/4 usually get Miller and Spiller or a few other RB's
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 5:52 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:02 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
there are 8 or 9 1st RD running backs this year in my eyes.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:12 pm to Lester Earl
Where you rate Hill?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:14 pm to Peazey
quote:I'm not a fan of this strategy. Yes, Luck threw 40 TDs last year and the offense has good weapons. But even 2 years ago when Peyton (not a 1st round pick) threw 55 TDs, I wasn't in a league that the Champ owned him. I know they existed, but it wasn't the norm.
I play in a 6 pt passing TD league. As of right now I'm planning on picking Luck with my first pick. Just have to get lucky with rb's.
Also, I agree with LE, I see probably around 8 or 9 top round RBs.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:22 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
Non PPR, in no particular order:
Bell
Charles
Lacy
AP
Lynch
Before any wide receiver.
Arguments for Antonio, DT88, Dez, Gronk before
Foster
Forte
Anderson
PPR:
Argument for Antonio over any RB, but I still would take Bell, Charles, AP, Lacy before I took Antonio.
Bell
Charles
Lacy
AP
Lynch
Before any wide receiver.
Arguments for Antonio, DT88, Dez, Gronk before
Foster
Forte
Anderson
PPR:
Argument for Antonio over any RB, but I still would take Bell, Charles, AP, Lacy before I took Antonio.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:32 pm to Zoltan
quote:Is this even a thing anymore?
Non PPR
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:37 pm to Gtothemoney
2nd RD, 1st RD upside
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:39 pm to drizztiger
Almost every year the team with the top QB is one of the top 3 teams in my league. He doesn't necessarily win the championship because that really depends on luck in the playoffs more than anything else, but every year he is near the top.
Even saying this I've almost always gone the wait approach. I see the logic of it. I'm just thinking really hard about trying a new strategy this year.
Even saying this I've almost always gone the wait approach. I see the logic of it. I'm just thinking really hard about trying a new strategy this year.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 6:45 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 6:52 pm to PurpleNGoldFan
Depending on your type of league taking Gronk after the top 3 RBs are off the board isn't a bad move at all. Dez, Brown and Demaryius are just as safe as the next RBs on the board (That's what I'd do personally). Also, they're less $$$ in auction drafts.
Middle 2nd round, probably next best back after McCoy
Yeah it's thing called standard. It's quite fun
Stop bringing up memories of Luck's game against Dallas
quote:
Where you rate Hill?
Middle 2nd round, probably next best back after McCoy
quote:
Is this even a thing anymore?
Yeah it's thing called standard. It's quite fun
quote:
He doesn't necessarily win the championship because that really depends on luck in the playoffs more than anything else
Stop bringing up memories of Luck's game against Dallas
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 6:58 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:03 pm to Peazey
quote:I don't disagree with that. But think about this, Manning threw 55 TDs in 2013. He was picked in the 1st round of many 12-team competitive leagues in 2014. He still threw for 39 TDs last season, was it worth it? I'm going to say 9/10 times is wasn't. So Luck threw for 40 last year, maybe he hits 50 this year, who knows. A.A.Ron - arguably the best QB in the league - threw 45 TDs in 15 games in 2011. He followed it up with 39 TDs in 16 games in 2012.
Almost every year the team with the top QB is one of the top 3 teams in my league. He doesn't necessarily win the championship because that really depends on luck in the playoffs more than anything else, but every year he is near the top.
I have nothing against Luck at all. My point is that you can't just bank the stats and go home.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:18 pm to drizztiger
quote:
I have nothing against Luck at all. My point is that you can't just bank the stats and go home.
You could say the same thing about any player though, right? This is no different than just making a bet that it's possible that Luck progresses even further this year. Which may be possible.
I'm still not sold on this decision though. I'm thinking real hard about it.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:19 pm to Peazey
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Almost every year the team with the top QB is one of the top 3 teams in my league.
How many of those years was the top QB taken in the first round and remained on that owner's team the entire season?
That also mean that 2/3 teams every year don't have the top QB and are still there. I'm willing to bet that the other two teams most likely had the top, or one of the top RBs or WRs if not both.
Of the top 5 Qbs in scoring, how many typically are drafted in rounds 1-3? Probably 1-2, maybe 3 in a 6pt.
How about the the top 5 RB? At least 4, probably all 5.
Top 5 WR? At least 3-4.
By taking a qb in the first round you are putting yourself at a much bigger disadvantage to get a top 5 player at a position like RB or WR which requires you to start more than one player at that position. The variance is so much higher down the rankings than it is with Qbs.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:30 pm to Peazey
quote:I included that. Even if he throws for 50 TDs this year in 6pt pass TD leagues, still not worth 1st round. Sure it's an advantage at that position but it's a disadvantage to the whole team.
You could say the same thing about any player though, right? This is no different than just making a bet that it's possible that Luck progresses even further this year. Which may be possible.
In competitive 12-team PPR leagues, you pick Luck with your first pick, one of all the tempting WRs with second pick, you'll see very soon how scarce the RB position is.
QB isn't a scarce position and you only need one to start. Even Tony Romo in a run heavy offense last year threw for 34 TDs and you can get him in the 6th, 7th round?
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:33 pm to drizztiger
Ok. You have probably talked me away from the ledge. I'm going to think about it.
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:35 pm to Zoltan
quote:
How many of those years was the top QB taken in the first round and remained on that owner's team the entire season?
I know it has happened at least once, and that team was probably the most dominant of all the years this league has been together. Still I'll think about it.
It is just a 10 team league though if that changes your perspective at all. It makes all the positions a little less scarce.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 7:37 pm
Posted on 7/16/15 at 7:35 pm to drizztiger
Getting a guaranteed 40 pts each week in a 6-pt TD league from Luck is definitely an advantage. Especially if you can get him on the back end of the 1st and get a #1 WR like Dez to go with it. All it takes is a good draft an two solid RB2s to fill that void of no #1 RB. Lamar Miller, Mark Ingram and Jeremy Hill can definitely fill that hole.
This post was edited on 7/16/15 at 7:39 pm
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