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re: DATBBL ** Draft Oct 23rd 8 pm CT**

Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:25 pm to
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:25 pm to
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If you're gonna count assists you should be penalized for TOs

the 2 have nothing to do with each other

TOs basically act as a form of socialism and reward passive play
Posted by MrWiseGuy
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:27 pm to
Thanks Honk and Thomas
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:37 pm to
Wiseguy works for me...

Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:38 pm to
i'll accept you if you vote to eliminate TOs
Posted by lsu31always
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 4:39 pm to
Hmmmm.
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
Member since Sep 2006
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 5:30 pm to
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WESTBROOK OTB


Is he still OTB, and how much?
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:08 pm to
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the 2 have nothing to do with each other


They're not completely unrelated. assist/turnover ratio is still a recognized statistic, no?

Anyways I like rule changes that make the league more competitive, not less.
Posted by fratmonster
Member since Oct 2005
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:17 pm to
I always hated turnovers, so id vote against.

Slow, check them players i listed. I'd do a two for one or one for one to get Westbrook. Westbrook is my dawg

I guess ill need to change this Holiday season shite i have for my sig
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 6:18 pm
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 6:30 pm to
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Slow, check them players i listed. I'd do a two for one or one for one to get Westbrook. Westbrook is my dawg


Plus one
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:37 pm to
quote:

assist/turnover ratio is still a recognized statistic, no?

yeah but it's really only applicable to one position (point guard) and with the neo/o-guard, it's losing importance

quote:

I like rule changes that make the league more competitive, not less.

that's what i'm doing
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:38 pm to
i'd like to upgrade him. i have 5 keepers. 2:1
Posted by TthomasJR
Houston, TX
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:43 pm to
You can have Amare
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:43 pm to
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51036 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:45 pm to
i just like TOs bc it balances things out for guards. if we ditch TOs it'll make guards too valuable & decrease the importance of Fs/Cs. people will be loading up on guards for their flex. i dont wanna play in a league like that.

& i dont see how eliminating a category makes things more competitive. 1 less category to worry about while drafting/trading/making lineup decisions doesn't mean more competitive to me.

ETA: btw it doesnt reward complacency, it penalizes frick ups, which is how it should be.
This post was edited on 9/20/12 at 8:49 pm
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:49 pm to
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it'll make guards too valuable & decrease the importance of Fs/Cs.

this isn't fantasy football

this is stat-based competition, not point-based competition. it's impossible for 1 position to become "too valuable"

quote:

people will be loading up on guards for their flex.

and they'll get killed in FG%, blocks, and rebounds

big men turn it over more than guards anyway
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 8:50 pm to
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btw it doesnt reward complacency, it penalizes frick ups, which is how it should be.

TOs are a product of aggression, typically. that's a good thing
Posted by Honkus
Member since Aug 2005
51036 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:02 pm to
i dont think giving the ball to the other team is a good thing.

i think its a pretty important stat & to throw it out be some people "just don't like it" would be a bitch-move.
Posted by fratmonster
Member since Oct 2005
10942 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:05 pm to
I just don't think it makes sense in fantasy. Turnovers punish a fantasy team for having alot of playmakers who play with the ball in there hands. Why?
Posted by SlowFlowPro
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Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:06 pm to
we need to figure out a way to make FT% hold more weight to offset the "jumpshooter" effect
Posted by MrPappagiorgio
Prairieville
Member since Jan 2009
41122 posts
Posted on 9/20/12 at 9:06 pm to
You can have DeMarcus
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