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RollDatRoll
Atlanta Braves Fan
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Member since Dec 2010
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Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
I was offered Cain overnight in my league for Gallardo. Normally I wouldn't be able to click accept fast enough. Cain has been bad though. His hr rate has spiked. Do you think he will be fine or is he possibly injured? I was burned by Timmy Jim all last season so I don't want to deal with that again.

Anyone else buying or selling Matt Cain right now? What is your opinion of him going forward?


reddman
Member since Jul 2005
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
He'll be fine. Accept immediately.


RollDatRoll
Atlanta Braves Fan
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Thanks. Wanted to make sure I wasn't over-thinking this.


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Chadaristic
Alabama Fan
SWFL
Member since Jan 2011
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
I have Matt Cain and have been disappointed with him so far.


Don't have any plans to get rid of him though.


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UltimateHog
Arkansas Fan
Springfield, MO
Member since Dec 2011
45420 posts

re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Buy.

He will be fine.


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Brian Wilson
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Member since Mar 2012
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
I agree. Take the deal. He will work it out.


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GynoSandberg
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Why not just hold Gallardo?


GynoSandberg
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Cain vs Gallardo since 2009

ERA- 2.93 vs 3.69 (Cain)
WHIP- 1.10 vs 1.29 (Cain)
K/9- 7.35 vs 9.40 (Gallardo)
WINS- 55 vs 60 (Gallardo)


Why not keep the one who pitching better this season?


RollDatRoll
Atlanta Braves Fan
Who Dat. Roll Tide.
Member since Dec 2010
9253 posts

re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
In general, I think Cain is better pitcher(see ERA and WHIP). I'll take that guy. His k's may end up being lower but I don't think the difference will be much. I think Yovanni's big sell is his strikeouts, but he isn't striking anyone out so far this year.


MrWiseGuy
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Since Cain has been in the big leagues, his xfip has been about a run higher than his era for the year (excluding this year).

Maybe it's just finally catching up to him?

2007 - 3.65 era, 4.47 xfip
2008 - 3.76, 4.46
2009 - 2.89, 4.16
2010 - 3.14, 4.00
2011 - 2.88, 3.78
2012 - 2.79, 3.82
This post was edited on 4/30 at 11:15 am


The White Lobster
Atlanta Braves Fan
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Member since Jul 2009
16677 posts

re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
He'd have a lot more catching up to do than that

he'll be fine
This post was edited on 4/30 at 11:12 am


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GynoSandberg
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re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
Meh. There are like 10 guys who will K 200 year in and year out. While Cain's ERA/WHIP are nice, Gallardo's big K numbers and decent ERA/WHIP level them off a bit for me. Couple that with Cain's slow start and you really are better off just staying put.

Gallardo routinely underachieves in April throughout his career. August ERA obviously sucks.

April- 4.13 and K/9 of 7.3
May- 2.77 and 9.1
June- 2.97 and 9.9
July- 3.40 and 8.6
August- 4.83 and 9.7
September- 3.64 and 9.9

Im not saying Cain is bad at all. I just dont see the need for the risk.


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Rohan2Reed
Grambling Fan
9th & Hennepin
Member since Nov 2003
75519 posts

re: Attn: R2R - Matt Cain question
I'd pull the trigger on that in a heartbeat. Perhaps speaking from a biased perspective but I think Cain has a larger upside going forward and I'll take two pitching cats for Cain (ERA & WHIP) over one for Gallard (K's). They're about even on wins/QS .. if your league uses those.

I think this bad start is an anomaly and he'll be fine. Also you can do what I do which is use SP with moderate K's but solid on ERA and WHIP and supplement them with high K relief pitchers.


RollDatRoll
Atlanta Braves Fan
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