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LSU Groupee
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time

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Yes he is a criminal, but he did not commit a crime that warrants him serving half of his adult life in jail. That is not justice


Calm down. The dude, if he gets anything more from Louisiana, will have some kind of probation added to his sentence which will be a good thing for those of us who choose not to break into homes at night, steal things, and sexually abuse women.


htownjeep
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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Give the guy probation in La.

Ummm, they did that already.

Don't get me wrong, I don't think the time fits the crime. My point is that HE KNEW if he broke his probation he'd be looking at prison time in La.


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Zchlsu
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
Nope, but I'm sure some women do.


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lsu fan cw
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
The woman in BR who killed and got the privileged treatment comes to mind.


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lsufball19
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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The dude, if he gets anything more from Louisiana, will have some kind of probation added to his sentence which will be a good thing for those of us who choose not to break into homes at night, steal things, and sexually abuse women.


and he served the entirety of a 13 year sentence for that in prison. at what point to you think someone has payed their debt to society?


tigerpimpbot
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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Collins is living in Florida under a 9 p.m. to 6 a.m. curfew. He agreed to waive his right to challenge extradition from Florida to Louisiana if East Baton Rouge Parish prosecutors won their appeal.


Why would he agree to waive his right to challenge extradition?

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The state 1st Circuit Court of Appeal reversed Caldwell in September, and the state Supreme Court affirmed the reversal by denying Collins’ appeal Jan. 17.

“We need to schedule a (probation revocation) hearing,” Bernie said, adding she has spoken with Collins’ attorney, Rodney Baum, and Caldwell’s office.

Baum contends Collins has been punished significantly already.

In the Baton Rouge cases, Collins pleaded guilty in April 1999 to two felony counts of unauthorized entry of an inhabited dwelling and two misdemeanor counts of simple battery.


Can he successfully argue for time served, even though it was in FL?


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The Mick
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
Probation violations carry longer sentences. He didnt get all this time just for breaking into a house. Get your shite straight people.


htownjeep
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Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Jun 2005
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
He was suspended 3 times in high school and was protected to a great degree it seems. He gets to LSU and fails the initial drug test and also couldn't qualify academically. Then the two FELONY arrests (with a few misdemeanors thrown in) and he gets off with a light probation. He finally gets busted (and pretty harshly, yes) in Fla.

There is no arguing that he was a great back and was a joy to watch him rushing. But why are so many making it sound like he's getting the short end of the stick on all of this? He seems to simply not care about the consequences of his actions...even when it is spelled out clear as day for him.


lsufball19
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Germantown, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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There is no arguing that he was a great back and was a joy to watch him rushing. But why are so many making it sound like he's getting the short end of the stick on all of this? He seems to simply not care about the consequences of his actions...even when it is spelled out clear as day for him.

I only think he's getting the short end of the stick if he's required to serve additional jail time in LA. There are plenty of repeat felons who don't actually serve all 13 years of their sentence in prison. I see it literally every day at my job. There are guys with countless felonies and criminal histories so long it's blows my mind, yet they rarely serve as much as 10 years behind bars, and many of these are crimes involving firearms, rape, and much more serious offenses. One thing that hurt Cecil is I assume he didn't take a plea bargain because of his NFL career, which actually hurt him in the long run when he was found guilty. 90+% of those charged with felonies plead out and receive vastly reduced sentences.
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htownjeep
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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I only think he's getting the short end of the stick if he's required to serve additional jail time in LA.

You mean he's getting the short end of the stick if La enforces the agreement that he had with them?
La. let him walk and that entitled him to go enjoy a NFL career. He made a bad life choice and decided that burglary was more important. Can nobody see that this guy is a habitual offender and can't stop getting into trouble?


glenoaks
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Austin
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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Probation violations carry longer sentences. He didnt get all this time just for breaking into a house. Get your shite straight people.

He served his time. What are you talking about? The issue is they want to extend his time, but he didn't commit any other crimes in jail that would give them to right to add more time.


lsufball19
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Germantown, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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You mean he's getting the short end of the stick if La enforces the agreement that he had with them?

are you being obtuse just to be obtuse? he only served 13 years for the crime committed in Florida because of that agreement he had in LA. Unless you are naive and think that he would have received a 13 year prison sentence regardless, he has already been punished severely for violating the terms of his probated sentence in LA.


touchdownjeebus
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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They've really stuck it to this guy.


that's what happens when you frick with very influential people.


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deNYEd
Kentucky Fan
Houston
Member since Jul 2007
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
Yes he did actually. Everyone forgetting masterbated on a female co while in jail


NOSTRODAMUS
LSU Fan
Prairieville/Dutchtown
Member since Dec 2003
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
People who know him personally say he is where belongs because he will not change. Sad.


saintsfan22
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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Everyone forgetting masterbated on a female co while in jail


And that probably kept him from getting out earlier in Fla. but that wouldn't be why LA would send him to prison.


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htownjeep
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Nassau Bay, TX
Member since Jun 2005
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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are you being obtuse just to be obtuse?

I'm not being anything. I'm just simply stating that this is all on him. Everyone is "poor cecil" but he did this shite to himself. Don't break into people's homes and you won't have a problem.


Scrowe
New Orleans Saints Fan
Louisiana
Member since Mar 2010
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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People who know him personally say he is where belongs because he will not change. Sad.


Word from Deridder is he'd been in jail before college if it wasn't for the fact that he was good at football.


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lsufball19
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Germantown, TN
Member since Sep 2008
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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Everyone is "poor cecil" but he did this shite to himself. Don't break into people's homes and you won't have a problem.

really went out on a limb there. Glad you pointed that out.

regardless, people shouldn't be endlessly and unjustly punished for their crimes. He served his time, and a long time for the offense. He's paid his debt to society. No one is saying "poor cecil" like he shouldn't have ever gone to jail. They're saying he doesn't deserve any more jail time than what he's already done. His crimes do not come with a lifetime sentence and shouldn't. Thinking it would be unjust to have him serve additional time on top of what he's already served is not the same thing as feeling sorry he ever had to serve in the first place.


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LSU Groupee
Member since Oct 2012
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re: Cecil 'The Diesel' Collins may face more jail time
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at what point to you think someone has payed their debt to society?


When the courts say so.

This is not an uncommon happening when you have a thug breaking the law in two different jurisdictions. No matter what Florida did to him, his breaking his court probation in Louisiana has to be adjudicated by the Louisiana court. It seems as if the state wants some punishment for him because of his breaking the probation they awarded him. Probably more probation.

I don't have a problem with a two time offender getting more court supervision. When you break into homes at night when you know someone will be in those homes sleeping, you are a dangerous dude. As far as I am concerned, the more court supervision he gets the better it is for the public.



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