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"...any commissioned wildlife agent may visit, inspect, and examine, with or without [a] search warrant, records, any cold storage plant, warehouse, boat, store, car, conveyance, automobile or other vehicle, airplane or other aircraft, basket or other receptacle, or any place of deposit for wild birds, wild quadrupeds, fish or other aquatic life or any parts thereof whenever there is probable cause to believe that a violation has occurred.


this does not say "home"






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choupiquesushi
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When did they institute limits on reds and trout?

late 1986 or 1987 I know in summer of 86 there were NO limits of trout...






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boom roasted
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late 1986 or 1987 I know in summer of 86 there were NO limits of trout...
My dad tells stories of literally filling the bottom of the boat with reds in the 80s in Leeville. Used to just stack up in the long canals before they eroded.



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soco790
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Where did you find that language? I did a halfassed attempt to find it on their website with no luck.


LINK

On page 39

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§55. Search with or without warrant







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choupiquesushi
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My dad tells stories of literally filling the bottom of the boat with reds in the 80s in Leeville.


yep.. by mid 80s reds got noticeably tougher to find though...


had nothing to do with recreational pressure - the pressure on bull reds(actually big females) caused stocks to fall...

my grandpa was like.. WHY WOULD SOMEONE KEEP A REDFISH OVER 15inches is beyond me...... I think red limit started at 14 or 15 and migrated to 16..

there were many many howls of protest over the limits...






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soco790
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Yeah, it says place where birds, fish,etc are stored. If you are thought to have any wild game they can search





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boom roasted
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Thank ya.





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Your post reminds me of a trip a cousin and I made down the River close to Buras.
We would cross the River and go thru Ostrica Lock to get to his camp down a deadend canal near the River. WE fished Bay Denesse, Raccoon Pt, Quarantine Bay.
This particular weekend we left NOLa Friday morning, fished that evening, Saturday and Sunday morning. Cleaned all the fish at the camp.
Sunday, as we were pulling the boat out, we saw what looked like a W&F boat coming upriver. Guy had on not just green jeans, but a green jacket.

My cousin took the icechest full of fish out of the boat and put it down beside the boat ramp on the other side of the boat from the suspected agent. We finished getting the boat ready and messed around the boat and truck, looking busy.

Luckily the dude just zoomed by not even looking our way. He wasn't in a W&F boat either. If he had been and stopped, we had no idea who that ice chest belonged too. We snatched it up and threw it in the boat. He stored his boat at a shed at Empire so we weren't too worried about having the fish in his truck and not pulling a boat from that point.
Kinda scary, it could have gotten ugly!






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"An individual
must not have more than 2 pounds
of finfish parts per person in state waters,
or more than 1.5 pounds of finfish parts per
person in federal waters, on board the vessel,
provided that the vessel is equipped to
cook finfish and that the finfish does not
exceed applicable bag limits."

Yup, REAL UGLY RIP, Keith



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soco790
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Oh we would be screwed if we got stopped.

Last trip was something around 75 specs, a nice mess of bass and some reds. All fillets minus the redfish.




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I remember well the pre-limit days. One trip out of Tiger Pass on Jan 2 of whatever year in the early 80s we had to stop fishing. We filled whatever the biggest sized box you could get back then (maybe 100 qt?) and our drink box. Could not put another Red in it. All 12 to about 20 inches, no huge ones. Luckily it was cold as hell!
Another trip we filled two or three boxes with speckled trout. We never would count them. We'd get home sometimes, call the neighbors to help clean ahd fry right out of the box. Good Times!






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Those were the days when you didn't have a successful trip unless you caught a "boxfull". Gillnets and the blackened redfish craze started by Paul Prudhomme damn near wiped out the redfish stock and lead to the limits. Same with trout and gillnets. A lot of folks don't care for the CCA (then the GCCA) but without the efforts of that group, there might not be any more reds and specks to catch.





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We have a hunting camp down off lake decade, so anytime we make a trip we clean all our fish at the camp to make life easy. Well I was going through the fishing regulations, and it basically states you can't have any filleted fish on the boat when you come in.
You're asking two different things here, really. ONE, is it legal to clean/fillet them at the camp- to which I'd say yes. TWO, is it legal to clean/fillet them on the boat- to which is obviously not legal.






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REB BEER
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Not legal to clean them if you have to get in a boat to get them back to the truck





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choupiquesushi
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Those were the days when you didn't have a successful trip unless you caught a "boxfull". Gillnets and the blackened redfish craze started by Paul Prudhomme damn near wiped out the redfish stock and lead to the limits. Same with trout and gillnets. A lot of folks don't care for the CCA (then the GCCA) but without the efforts of that group, there might not be any more reds and specks to catch.


Yeah I wish I had some of those old times pic fishing reports....


Chef..mixed box green trout, lake runners and reds

Delacroix boxes of trout with a few reds

Etc






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REB BEER
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I think at some point it becomes food and the strict possession limits and such don't apply anymore.


I don't think it really matters food or not. I know someone who green jeans came in his house and he had 24 squirrels in the freezer and he got a ticket for having over the possession limit. He was home alone so he couldn't claim they weren't all his.






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"All saltwater finfish caught in possession of
a recreational angler must have the head
and caudal fin intact until set on shore.
Garfish may have the head and caudal fin
removed prior to the fish being on shore as
long as a sufficient patch of skin that clearly
identifies the fish remains on the fish.

Exception: Tuna, swordfish and shark
possessed by a recreational angler must not
be skinned or scaled until set or put on
shore. Tuna that meet minimum size
requirements may have the head removed if
the carcass length is in excess of the minimum
total length. See Lengths on page 14.

Fillets may not be possessed on the water,
except for the purpose of consumption at
sea aboard the harvesting vessel. An individual
must not have more than 2 pounds
of finfish parts per person in state waters,
or more than 1.5 pounds of finfish parts per
person in federal waters, on board the vessel,
provided that the vessel is equipped to
cook finfish and that the finfish does not
exceed applicable bag limits. These provisions
do not apply to bait species.

Saltwater finfish caught or transported by a
recreational fisherman are presumed to
have been caught in Louisiana waters, for
license requirements.

All regulations regarding these species
apply whether caught in freshwater or saltwater
areas."


This only applies to saltwater fish, not freshwater.

Also you want your work around the law? put a BBQ pit in your boat, and you are then allowed 2lbs person of fish fillets while on the water.






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I think at some point it becomes food and the strict possession limits and such don't apply anymore.


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I can't find that in the federal waterfowl regulations but I'd be happy if someone could find something definitive


You can't find it b/c its not there. At no point does it say anything about becoming a "food product" or anything of the sort.

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Pretty sure possession limits do not apply at your home


Yeah they do, see the guy in St Charles Parish that got busted for posting all the teal on FB 2 years ago.



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Geauxtiga
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Not legal to clean them if you have to get in a boat to get them back to the truck
Well that is exactly what I wasn't understanding. They have camps only accessible from boat? Dam, that's "camping".

I couldn't understand why they wouldn't put the dam ice chest of clean fish in the truck and not back in the boat.






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Drop4Loss
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Limits pertain to "in your possession".

Technically if your headin home by yourself in yo truck and have 51 filets of specs, you're illegal.

25 spec limit






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