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NOLAGT
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I think its the retailers and they try to place blame on the back channel so they don't look like such a price gouger.

I got a 23 last week for 259 so I think its the retailers...






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GaryMyMan
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I got a 23 last week for 259 so I think its the retailers...

SOB.






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drockw1
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Dorignacs is $500 for the 20
$750 for the 23


Same prices as last year...had five of each, sold em all by Christmas






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lilwineman
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It's retailers making a huge markup off of it. Your allocation is highly dependent on quantity if product sold, # of skus, and some loyalty more so to sazerac co. If you're a huge mover of eagle rare, buffalo trace, old charter, etc you will be given a slightly larger allocation. If you stock every offering from sazerac you get bonus points. However, republic has held their wholesale within the range it's always been. It's the demand the retailers see that gets the bigger price. The distributors actually hate having something so limited because someone is always bound to get upset over what they get.





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Tiger Attorney
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They had 3 pappy 20 and 4 pappy 23 left





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theBeard
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Dorignacs is $500 for the 20
$750 for the 23


which one of you just called out Dorignacs on the bourbon exchange?

beta move






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drockw1
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I got my 1 bottle of JPS 18 from BX about 6 months ago, haven't seen the site since...

I wouldn't call out Dorignac's, usually where I get my rarer stuff. BX is often as bad or worse with gouging.






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Tiger Attorney
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Not I...I am a libertarian. ..free market. I personally will not pay $500. I also have the ability to not give them my wine business throughout the year bc of that. That is the free market...





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TigerWise
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Buddy just sent me this







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theBeard
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what bar is that?





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TigerWise
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Bourbon House





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theBeard
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I only personally own one of those bottles and its sadly the one all the way to the right





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NOLAGT
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I thought I recognized that bar...really like going there.





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theBeard
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@NO if you get an extra 15 I will pay the cost and send you that 4R you want





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LSUAfro
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It's retailers making a huge markup off of it. Your allocation is highly dependent on quantity if product sold, # of skus, and some loyalty more so to sazerac co. If you're a huge mover of eagle rare, buffalo trace, old charter, etc you will be given a slightly larger allocation. If you stock every offering from sazerac you get bonus points. However, republic has held their wholesale within the range it's always been. It's the demand the retailers see that gets the bigger price. The distributors actually hate having something so limited because someone is always bound to get upset over what they get.

Spot on...
I know a few retailers who are getting it and actually purchased cases of stuff they had no desire to sell, but their reps were pushing it with a wink and saying you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.

Source: Liquor reps

And, TA, $3k isn't going to cut it at a retailer that likely has so many large accounts. The key is to find smaller market retailers that sell the sazerac Co products well.






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LSUAfro
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Dorignacs is $500 for the 20
$750 for the 23

Insane.






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chieftiger
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Lets just say I know Dorignacs paid $245 for the 23 year Pappy and received their alotment last Friday. They got 4 cases of 15 year, 5 cases 20year, and 4 cases 23 year.

Last year, they were selling the 20 year for around $500, and the 23 year for $750. I was livid...I emailed Pappy Van Winkle and received a reply from Preston Van Winkle, and he said they were fully aware of the situation, but there were laws preventing them from doing much, but could reduce the alotment Dorignacs gets from Republic. Preston even mentioned what the retail price should be, and I took that email with me asking why so expensive....manager at Dorignacs, basically said f off, and walked away....Sorry, it's great bourbon, but not that great. $750?






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BlackenedOut
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No offense, but that mark up (basically 300%) is not that different from a normal markup on wine and spirits in a store. Now of course, the more expensive the wine or booze, the less the markup (at least in say a restaurant setting). But most wine stores are marking up wines 2X at least. 3X for a highly sought after bourbon doesn't seem absurd enough to become a narc over.





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theBeard
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They got 4 cases of 15 year, 5 cases 20year, and 4 cases 23 year.


so they received (12) bottles of 15, (15) bottles of 20 and (12) bottles of 23? That seems really , really hard to believe. Most states dont get that kind of allotment.






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BlackenedOut
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Ehh, I think Sazerac has a little more pull than most distributors in other markets.





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