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buhdango
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Pearl Jam "Lightning Bolt" appreciation thread



Pearl Jam's 10th album is out today.

Thoughts?

To me, Pearl Jam has a special place in my heart. They have some killer songs and discs. Quality has dropped since Binaural, however, they always have great songs with each release. Vedder is 50 and sounds better than ever, but there is some cheese on the new one.

They're at the point now like Springsteen—they're going to keep on going, releasing albums full of clunkers but with three-to-four, maybe five songs of greatness that you remind you of the band you fell in love with. Pearl Jam is now considered classic rock, and I'm totally OK with them carrying that torch.







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CaptainPanic
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Personally, I enjoy the Into the Wild soundtrack better than any Pearl Jam





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ColoradoAg03
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Pearl Jam is not and never will be considered classic rock. It's not even close to that genre.





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buhdango
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i get that a lot of people hate pearl jam! hey man, no big deal, i won't shove it down your throat like some people here do with drake.

i mean at least we can agree they're better than drake, right? c'mon.






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Melvin
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quote:

i mean at least we can agree they're better than drake, right? c'mon.
The twins should be here shortly






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Mad_Mardigan
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I like the new album so far. They obviously weren't created to be classic rock but as of now there's really no one else to carry the torch so I'm cool with it too. More of an arena rock band but I get what you mean.





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ColoradoAg03
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There's no carrying the torch from one genre to another, especially a different and established genre lol. So you're saying PJ, a grunge rock band, would cary Led Zeppelin's classic rock genre torch? That isn't right at all.


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At what point did Led Zeppelin make the transition from a rock to classic rock?





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Mad_Mardigan
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So you're saying PJ, a grunge rock band, would cary Led Zeppelin's classic rock genre torch?
I must have blacked out when I wrote that.






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buhdango
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Led Zeppelin weren't created as a classic rock band, either. Zeppelin's got some great albums and tunes, but in today's landscape just like in decades before it, what's considered classic is what came 20-30 years before.
Zeppelin was probably one of the first grunge bands. They were hated when they first came out. I know it's hard to imagine. Because of classic rock radio and a genius business plan, they're considered a great rock band.
The reason Led Zeppelin is loved is because of dads trying to convince kids that hair metal wasn't cool, but Zeppelin was "real rock." More and more, whether you like it or not, classic rock radio will start playing what you grew up with rather than The Eagles, Zepp, The Doors, etc. And those bands will go on to the golden oldies rock stations with 50-60-year-ols talking about "real rock."
History repeats itself. Pearl Jam has become a part of that history.






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ColoradoAg03
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I guess it depends on your definition of classic rock. If PJ is to be considered classic rock, then are all of the 80's and 90's rock bands to now be considered classic rock?






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weinrib
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Is Tears for Fears considered classic rock?





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buhdango
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probably just as depeche mode is considered it.

i mean classic rock nowadays has a long line of bad '80s bands. i'm not trying to define what is and isn't classic. but that's what the stations are playing.

radio really isn't important though. the other factor into these bands being classic is remerging as older dudes who once had a hit or several and coming back strong. pearl jam has consistently stayed good to great for more than 20 years. it's more in how you define the word classic. there are moments on lightning bolt where pearl jam is clearly positioning themselves in the ranks of what is considered classic. it's odd sometimes, but most of the time it works.






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Mad_Mardigan
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Yes. Bands in the 60's and 70's weren't "classic" when they were in their "hey day". It wasn't until those bands stood the test of time and maintained relevancy to become classic. At least 20-30 years. Bands who have maintained popularity and whose music is still highly regarded will become classic over time. Pearl Jam amongst others are on this path.





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ColoradoAg03
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Ya I guess I just have a hard time calling a rock band from the late 80s/early 90's like Metallica classic rock lol





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weinrib
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I guess I actually consider "classic rock" as a genre with a particular sound. I am a big PJ fan, especially the early stuff but I think that they are still a part of the grunge/alternative sound as a whole. Unlike rock, grunge did not continue to evolve in the same way. This is why I think so many look at classic rock in a similar manner.





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Mad_Mardigan
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I'm in the same boat but it just means we're getting old.





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buhdango
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yet, there is a mandatory metallica show on all the time on radio.
dude, don't even kill them all is classic. the rest. EHHHHHH

lars ulrich is so bad at drums now.






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buhdango
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grunge was just an adjective used by people who didn't like what was coming out of seattle. but, record companies manufactured what they thought grunge was with a number of angry bands, which continued until the rise of nu-metal, which might be one of the worst periods of music in general.







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ColoradoAg03
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Same here, weinrib. Depends on your age too, I'm in my mid 30s, so I was listening to all the grunge rock when it exploded and changed rock, as compared to someone that's still in college and about 20 yrs old. They really missed that all by time they came around to listening to real music.





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