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The ObamaCare Website – The Biggest Tech Gaggle Ever?


Wow .
The Techies are even taking note of this colossal Gubment Gravy historic failure from our historic first black President.
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This is really playing out as a clinic in how not to launch a major website project, failing in every respect across the board, from planning, to the communications, to testing and everything in between. Can you think of anything in history of the web that was worse? This is the government of course and history indicates that the exchange was probably built by a number of the cheapest available contractors through a bidding program, that is actually pretty close, but just wait until you hear about the money. The contractors behind the exchange were CGI Federal, who built the site, Quality Software Systems Inc. (CSSI) – a Canadian company that built the information hub, and Booz Allen who is responsible for enrollment and eligibility technical support. Somewhere in that soup of contractors, they built a site that – /wait for it/ – was built for 50,000 to 60,000 concurrent users at a total cost (so far) of $634 million. Feel free to replay that ratio. $634,000,000/50,000. Here’s another ratio to ponder – 50,000 users in 50 states. I guess if you can get the work….you do it. In this case unfortunately for many the product is downright poor.


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That alone is a massive bungle, but it does get worse, it appears however this thing was designed, the site is essentially pulling a Denial of Service attack on itself. Yeah.

One possible cause of the problems is that hitting “apply” on HealthCare.gov causes 92 separate files, plug-ins and other mammoth swarms of data to stream between the user’s computer and the servers powering the government website, said Matthew Hancock, an independent expert in website design. He was able to track the files being requested through a feature in the Firefox browser.

Of the 92 he found, 56 were JavaScript files, including plug-ins that make it easier for code to work on multiple browsers (such as Microsoft Corp’s Internet Explorer and Google Inc’s Chrome) and let users upload files to HealthCare.gov.

It is not clear why the upload function was included.

“They set up the website in such a way that too many requests to the server arrived at the same time,” Hancock said.




i'm almost hoping there is something nefarious in all of that information exchange, to explain why it exists






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why didn't they just get the NSA to enroll us?

They already have all the info.






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Lsupimp
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Price tag is six and a half times higher than original $94million contact.

The federal government has spent $634million on the Obamacare website - more than it cost to build Facebook or Twitter

Facebook operated for its six years, until June 2010, on less than $600million in outside funding - a acquiring more than half a billion users and more than 130million monthly unique page views.

Twitter, founded in 2006, operated on $360million in investment until 2011 - when servers were processing more than 140million tweets a day.


Remember, this is the part of the equation where costs are the most easy to predict. Wait until we get to actual Healthcare-related costs.

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Price tag is six and a half times higher than original $94million contact.

this is the thing with government contracts that pisses me the frick off

the mandate that they award contracts to the lowest bid is not always good business

secondly, the lowest big almost always has overruns that make it much more expensive, eliminating the advantage of the "lowest bid"

this isn't about Obama or DEMs. this is just a general statement about government contracts, regardless of who awards them






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I've witnessed this sort of thing numerous times in Louisiana state government, albeit on a smaller scale.





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the site is essentially pulling a Denial of Service attack on itself.






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This is really playing out as a clinic in how not to launch a major website project, failing in every respect across the board, from planning, to the communications, to testing and everything in between.


And, I'd bet, BY FAR the absolute most expensive launch in the brief history of the internet.

This is what big government gets you -- NO ACCOUNTABILITY.






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Lsupimp
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Devised by bureaucrats spending other people's money. We learned this lesson about a century ago. It's elemental to everybody except for liberals. The State is colossally inefficient.






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Name one thing the government does effectively............did anyone really think this thing would work?

If you truly want something to be a failure......put the govt in charge of it.



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Devised by bureaucrats spending other people's money. We learned this lesson about a century ago. It's elemental to everybody except for liberals. The State is colossally inefficient.


We keep hearing Rex talk about how he wants to eliminate the middleman -- those EVIL insurance companies -- and their evil 2% profits.

Of course, he wants to replace them with another government clusterf-uck and its obscene 25-50% wasteful bureaucracy. Just look at public school boards across the country.

Like I said earlier, if Karma has any basis in reality, Rex will be sawing off his own leg in less than 10 years.



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What is funny is that the government cannot get this right, after spending hundreds of millions over three years, yet the lib/progs think they will be great at handling and improving healthcare for everyone under single payer.





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What is funny is that the government cannot get this right, after spending hundreds of millions over three years, yet the lib/progs think they will be great at handling and improving healthcare for everyone under single payer.


They
are
brain
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yet the lib/progs think they will be great at handling and improving healthcare for everyone under single payer.


No worries -- after all, people JUST LIKE HER will be running your healthcare --



I just hope you've never criticized Der Führer on any internet bulletin board.



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son of arlo
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This is a real head scratcher fer sure. The app I currently support handles ~8mil transactions per day, with peaks of around 750k per hour. The setup is one Solaris E3k (yep, basic Flintstone tech right there) as a load balancer, two Solaris M5ks as front end servers, another wheezing E3k for a back end, and 4 M5Ks running an Oracle Golden Gate DB which constantly replicates itself and updates with 60 other DBs. The nominal time for one transaction is 40 millisecs, and people start freaking when there's a 120 second delay.

It reminds me of an episode of Star Trek Next Generation where a pathetic civilization acheived a modicum of success by stealing technology from other cultures. They kidnapped Jordie because their ship was broken, and in their words, "We are not smart. We cannot make it go." I weep for the tragic low state our nation has come to tech-wise.







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Pimp, I wrote the other day that the most fascinating thing to me in all of this is the Silicon Valley silence.

Big Tech was a HUGE supporter of Obama and they are sitting on the sidelines.

I find it incredibly interesting.






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KeyserSoze999
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I'm sure it will be hard to hack in and get people's personal medical records, just a means of unprivatizing in bulk





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Lsupimp
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lib/progs think


This is where you lost me.
They don't think anything.
They BELIEVE.
They believe in a mystical religious Orthodox fundamentalist way that State Control will be the cure for everything.
It's a near-mystical faith.






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MMauler
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The setup is one Solaris E3k (yep, basic Flintstone tech right there) as a load balancer, two Solaris M5ks as front end servers, another wheezing E3k for a back end, and 4 M5Ks running an Oracle Golden Gate DB which constantly replicates itself and updates with 60 other DBs.




YEAH -- what he said!




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son of arlo
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There's a guy in Hoover who could take one look at the code and fix it. The standard guideline is that one programmer can only comprehend ~1k lines of code. I wrote a program that parsed a requirements doc and created about 600 C classes/methods and "The Dude" found an error in line 110k. I stand in awe before people like this.

He's a devout Christian, so I doubt he'll be engaged to fix the Obamacare mess.






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